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[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 107 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Neanderthals are representing anti-science right wing government here

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 117 points 5 days ago (5 children)

Comparing the US Nazis to Neanderthals is an insult to Neanderthals.

[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Making fun of people's features is not really going to get us anywhere.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Disagree. With Trump, for example, it's one of the proven ways to get under his skin. It's useful to know how to goad people who otherwise have no capacity for empathy, regret, etc..., in my opinion.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Don't shit where you eat. Trump is not reading this post, not even MAGA people.

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

I'm not. I'm eating where I shit, which is still acceptable under the rules and, as a friendly aside, wildly efficient.

[–] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

Trust me, I love the idea of getting under Trump/MAGA's skin. But if we have to become the shitpeople to beat the shitpeople, do we really win?

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

It undercuts their dignity. If people think you're a joke, they don't do what you say when you say to do something awful.
We're dealing with fascists. They're a violent, angry pack of buffoons. We shouldn't cater to their feelings.

For reference, see the works Chaplin, and Moe, Larry and Curly.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Not a feature but a bug. 🤪

[–] pupbiru@aussie.zone 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)

especially considering neanderthals were made extinct largely because of things like violence with homo sapiens, disease introduced by homo sapiens, the relationship (or lack thereof) with dogs, and climate change whilst the competitive advantages around social and cognitive development are relatively slight

[–] ronl2k@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Neanderthals went extinct because they couldn't survive the ice age of 40,000 years ago. Unlike homo-sapiens, they never learned to sew, so they couldn't make tighter-fitting fur clothing to keep warm. They mostly wore loose-fitting animal hides.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ice wasn't everywhere. The sewing can't be the only reason but interesting nevertheless.

[–] ronl2k@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ice wasn’t everywhere.

The last ice age of 40,000 years ago covered everywhere Neanderthals lived, and no Neanderthals survived it. The last Neanderthals went extinct from exposure in a cave in Spain, which was affected by the last ice age.

No sewing equipment has ever been found with Neanderthals. They died of exposure in spite of being more cold-hardy than homo-sapiens, who by the last ice age had mastered sewing tighter-fitting clothing with leather and fur. That's why we survived the last ice age, and the Neanderthals did not.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There are sites outside of Europe which means that it was not only sewing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal Demographics

[–] ronl2k@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

From your article:

Pre- and early Neanderthals seem to have continuously occupied only France, Spain, and Italy, although some appear to have moved out of this "core-area" to form temporary settlements eastward (without leaving Europe). Nonetheless, southwestern France has the highest density of sites for pre- and classic Neanderthals.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

continuously

They were expelled elsewhere. If they were not they would have survived.

It is also possible that they didn't need sewing but are extinct because sewing allowed us to finally also settle Europe.

[–] ronl2k@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The archaeological consensus remains that Neanderthals went extinct because they could not survive the last ice age.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

No doubt about that.

[–] Muaddib@sopuli.xyz 2 points 5 days ago

You mean equating