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[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 28 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They're not totally wrong though. A huge share of the goods the Caribbean pirates "stole" didn't belong to their "victims" anyway. In fact, most of it had previously been stolen from the native Americans who had been conquered and killed or extorted from slaves on the plantations. Stealing from a robber isn't stealing imho.

Another, more modern example are the pirates of Somalia, who originally were fishermen. Only when foreign ships came into their waters to steal their fish and dispose toxic waste, they began to arm themselves to "steal" their own goods back.

Disney on the other hand...

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Unless they were returning the treasure to the natives, it's still stealing dude lol

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

Good luck bringing back a treasure to the rightful owner, when the rightful owner has been killed along with his family. Also, usually the thieves would not write "stolen from person X in Y" on their gold bars.

And let's not forget that a non-negligible part of the pirates were in fact former slaves that either fled on their own or have been freed directly by other pirates. So they basically fought their previous "owners".

[–] Soulg@ani.social 5 points 3 days ago

Yeah let's not pretend they were some noble boat robin hoods they just stole what they could find it just so happened to be a lot of slave made stuff

[–] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Explain to me how overfishing and dumping by neighbour countries somehow justifies taking hostage a ship transporting goods from China to Europe?

[–] brotundspiele@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago

If you steal my food and poison my soil until my family is starving, you shouldn't be surprised when I come back at you. And don't expect me to steal the fish back, that you've already eaten. Of cause I'll take whatever I can get hold of.

It weren't primarily neighbour countries, it were especially European and Chinese vessels that were doing that shit.

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Okay you go there and do better then, smart guy.

[–] Johanno@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

Others take my means of getting food.

I take shit and food from others.

Don't care about justification. That's just what they do.

Try to live and probably since no-one really stops them continue to do so.

You could provide alternative ways to earn money if you want to.