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I use these too. The "team sports" nature of it all is really deeply engrained, like a "water is invisible to a fish" kind of way. You can use that to surprise them and build some genuine curiosity sometimes.
It's really disarming and opens up convo when I seem to disagree with them on everything... but then just agree and help them attack whichever hideous Democrat they go after during a given conversation. Same for news, the conversation shifts in useful ways when they learn I dislike "their" (Fox and worse) news, as well as what they think of as "mine".
It's not enough to magically deprogram anyone, but it can start the gears turning. In my experience it usually takes the situation from two people standing across from each other fussing at one another, to two people standing together fussing at everything else. It's a start.