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[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I support the resistance. I do not support all of their actions.

I support the right for Israel to exist as a sovereign state. I support almost none of their recent actions, and absolutely none of their military actions.

That you cannot hold multiple complex ideas in your head at once is a personal failing on your part. You may want simple, binary, black and white realities but they virtually never exist in reality.

Any group that is beyond reproach is immoral by definition.

Once again: Do better.

[–] KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

I support the right for Israel to exist as a sovereign state.

Really? Why? You know they stole their land yes?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Israel is a settler colony and obviously doesn't have a right to exist. By trying to hold contradictory ideas at the same time you have ended up siding with the occupation, and you support Israel keeping the land it already stole when it was created.

Beyond being a settler colony they've also demonstrated their society as irredeemable. At this point? It's obvious saying Israel has a right to exist is indistinguishable from saying Nazi Germany has a right to exist.

You only proved my point. You both sides'd yourself into supporting the Nakba.

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

You just ignored thousands of years of history prior to the formation of Israel, as well as the role the international community played in its formation, just to make your naive, myopic point.

So no, you haven't proved anything but the fact that you will say whatever is easiest to push your agenda.

Peace out ✌️

[–] KatManDoo@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago

Ah yes israelis have the right to exist because abraham lived there 5000 years ago

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Israel is a fucking crusader state, but you won't acknowledge that thousand years of history because its inconvenient.