this post was submitted on 07 Oct 2025
43 points (75.9% liked)
Progressive Politics
3364 readers
1502 users here now
Welcome to Progressive Politics! A place for news updates and political discussion from a left perspective. Conservatives and centrists are welcome just try and keep it civil :)
(Sidebar still a work in progress post recommendations if you have them such as reading lists)
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
We can denounce Israel without justifying other atrocities. Do better.
No, you actually can't. There are only two sides, the occupation and the resistance. There's no secret third option you can support to feel morally cozy and superior to the people actually fighting for their lives. You have to actually pick a side, and if you try to choose neither you just end up supporting the side with all the power i.e. Israel.
If you don't support the resistance and their revolutionary actions, you support their extermination.
I support the resistance. I do not support all of their actions.
I support the right for Israel to exist as a sovereign state. I support almost none of their recent actions, and absolutely none of their military actions.
That you cannot hold multiple complex ideas in your head at once is a personal failing on your part. You may want simple, binary, black and white realities but they virtually never exist in reality.
Any group that is beyond reproach is immoral by definition.
Once again: Do better.
Israel is a settler colony and obviously doesn't have a right to exist. By trying to hold contradictory ideas at the same time you have ended up siding with the occupation, and you support Israel keeping the land it already stole when it was created.
Beyond being a settler colony they've also demonstrated their society as irredeemable. At this point? It's obvious saying Israel has a right to exist is indistinguishable from saying Nazi Germany has a right to exist.
You only proved my point. You both sides'd yourself into supporting the Nakba.
You just ignored thousands of years of history prior to the formation of Israel, as well as the role the international community played in its formation, just to make your naive, myopic point.
So no, you haven't proved anything but the fact that you will say whatever is easiest to push your agenda.
Peace out ✌️
Ah yes israelis have the right to exist because abraham lived there 5000 years ago
Israel is a fucking crusader state, but you won't acknowledge that thousand years of history because its inconvenient.
Good lord, why did you insufferable losers even leave Reddit?