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The government cracked down on people protesting against Israel and so the protests stopped. That's it. That's the whole reason.
If our support didn't matter they wouldn't have proscribed Palestine Action or deported college campus occupation organizers. Our support matters, the problem is that we were defeated.
In the US and Germany, maybe. In Italy, Spain, France, and a lot more places, their is no repression anymore. Italy got massive demonstrations recently, but this is an exception and if we want to support Palestine, we have to ask ourselves why.
My point is the contradiction of trying to mobilize for peace with bellicose words. Other causes could may be found, but it seems that nobody are interested in discuss about it.
What is need of being verbose about arm resistance in the support Palestine freedom ? I pointed ou the people we lose in this support, but if I'm missing something that our support may earn, please tell me
You're just asserting that we lose support when we express our support for Palestinian resistance, but I don't think we do. Why do you think the "do you condemn Hamas?" ritual happens? It's a tool to demobilize people. It's a trick they use on you to separate you from the actual resistance and leave you alienated from the struggle.
Condemning Hamas never helps anyway. Never ever never. Every fucking time they just call you a Hamas supporter anyway. So, why bother?
Give Zionists zero ground and never compromise.
Yep, of course I'm asserting. I'm speaking from my social position, and the only way I have to know if we could generalize to our class or not is to discuss about it. In another a class organization, like an union, we may see some subclass determination and see if their is different strategies for different industries.
I agree that the clever position is to not speak about hamas and arm resistance. I see many people I could convince thanks to the kind of position of Fanon, but maybe the movement will lose more people. You convince me that in this situation, "fanon" force an unnecessary split