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Title of the (concerning) thread on their community forum, not voluntary clickbait. Came across the thread thanks to a toot by @Khrys@mamot.fr (French speaking)

The gist of the issue raised by OP is that framework sponsors and promotes projects lead by known toxic and racists people (DHH among them).

I agree with the point made by the OP :

The “big tent” argument works fine if everyone plays by some basic civil rules of understanding. Stuff like code of conducts, moderation, anti-racism, surely those things we agree on? A big tent won’t work if you let in people that want to exterminate the others.

I'm disappointed in framework's answer so far

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[–] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 21 points 2 days ago (9 children)

This is unfortunate for sure. I want to give them a few days to respond for real, it's always possible they just didn't know about the issues here, but even in that thread they're brushing it off as though it doesn't matter. I'm not really sure what they get out of donating to these projects other than potential PR, anyway.

On a personal level I've recommended their laptops to people who have later bought them, and I was even looking at buying one myself to replace my aging macbook, but I don't think I can do that anymore while this is unaddressed.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'd imagine Dell or Lenovo would ALSO be giving money to people you disagree with, albeit more secretively. Plus, their laptops are less repairable.

There's no ethical consumption under Capitalism, so you pick the "best" choice; Framework might still be "best", they haven't discarded all their competitive advantage.

I'll probably do System76 for my next laptop, but I was considering Framework for my next phone. I don't expect to need to purchase either soon tho, so lots of time for the decision calculus to change.

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