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Many IT people are hardcore libertarians who believe in some warped idea that they are where they are through their intelligence and hardwork while completely ignoring many of them come from backgrounds that afforded them the opportunities they are taking advantage of.

I was this person. It is possible to reform, but it takes genuine curiosity and willingness to be wrong. Neither of those is rewarded by the IT environment of the last 30 years.

100% agreed. Just accepting business from an "out and proud" fascist, even if the task you were doing for them was community service, could be normalizing their "brand" enough that it's not worth doing. Selling ad space/time is also very questionable; tho, you might offset that with bumpers that let people know you what you actually think of the persons that bought the ad. Nuance is the rule, and two people that agree on moral principles might still do the moral calculus for any particular trade differently.

But, I don't think we need to (e.g.) add field of endeavor restrictions to our software licenses just to deny bad actors the same access we give to all other users/distributors universally. I don't think morally repugnant persons should be left out of food or housing programs or UBI. The fact that morally disagreeable people can buy a Framework is totally immaterial. The fact that among all the (nigh innumerable) software projects that Framework uses, they choose to directly support one (or more) where the people taking control of those resources are morally disagreable is a concern.

I can't remove anything. I not a mod or admin of anything throughout the Fediverse. I think I can delete my own posts, but that might (and probably should) leave a deletion log similar to the edit log. (Actually the delete log should just be an edit log that ends with "DELETED".)

EDIT: The mod log says the comment violated rule 3. I think the part of your comment using a common name as an indirect insult might have not "be[en] excellent to" me, but that's just a guess.

Using your wallet doesn't have to be political.

Voting is, by definition, political. It is a common part of several different methods of resolving coordination problems (i.e. politics).

"We have janitors for that!"

Well, Mr. Miller, we now have you for that.

Just be thankful we used that speech of yours for inspiration, and not the pro-torture one.

From that page:

Ask the Community

community.frame.work

I'd imagine Dell or Lenovo would ALSO be giving money to people you disagree with, albeit more secretively. Plus, their laptops are less repairable.

There's no ethical consumption under Capitalism, so you pick the "best" choice; Framework might still be "best", they haven't discarded all their competitive advantage.

I'll probably do System76 for my next laptop, but I was considering Framework for my next phone. I don't expect to need to purchase either soon tho, so lots of time for the decision calculus to change.

I think there's a fundamental asymmetry between receiving resources from persons you disagree with and providing resources to persons you disagree with. As long as your tasks aren't doing fascism, I think it's fine to get paid by (i.e. take money away from) fascists. But, no matter what you might get from persons with bad politics, if you transfer resources to them, they are going to use those resources to pursue those bad politics.

(BTW, Fox isn't right-wing enough for the real fascists; too many facts. OAN is what they watch, I think.)

Voting is wielding political power, whether it is with your wallet or anything else.

Even in what you quoted, Framework has provided no more preferred communication method for this discussion.

No, my name is Stephen.

I very much care about the view of business owners are; it's how I decide to where my "vote" goes when I "vote with my wallet" as I've frequently told to do by Capitalism supporters.

Palingenetic ultranationalism is a definition of "true fascism" proposed by political theorist Roger Griffin.

So, you are painting with a fairly fine brush there. While "Nazi" is more metaphorical, there are definitely people with authority in the US government that are literally fascists.