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I'm not proposing anything here, I'm curious what you all think of the future.

What is your vision for what you want Linux to be?

I often read about wanting a smooth desktop experience like on MacOS, or having all the hardware and applications supported like Windows, or the convenience of Google products (mail, cloud storage, docs), etc.

A few years ago people were talking about convergence of phone/desktop, i.e. you plug your phone into a big screen and keyboard and it's now your desktop computer. That's one vision. ChromeOS has its "everything is in the cloud" vision. Stallman has his vision where no matter what it is, the most important part is that it's free software.

If you could decide the future of personal computing, what would it be?

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[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For Linux in general? If I could decide? Here goes:

  • I would want people to realize that distro maintainers are actually important and Flatpak and co. are not actually as good of a thing as everyone makes them out to be.
  • I would want a full actively developed GNUstep-based desktop environment as the "default" Linux desktop (which apparently was the original intention).
  • I would want Xorg to finally go away.
[–] beta_tester@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
  • while the current state of flatpaks might not be perfect. Aren't they on a good path to provide a futuristic packaging format?
[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Does what they built work well? I suppose so. But is what they're doing a good idea? I would say no, and the reasons as to why are in the post I linked.

What would you consider a "futuristic packaging format"?

[–] beta_tester@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't find that flatpaks are mentioned in that article

I guess mostly sandboxing, permission control, distribution and reproducibility

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can’t find that flatpaks are mentioned in that article

Flatpaks, like Snap (that it does mention) are the "upstream packaging" the entire article is about. Specifically about how they both have software vendors directly publish packages to their repositories without maintainers in between.

sandboxing, permission control [...] reproducibility

Yes, those are good. (Not sure how reproducible it actually is since I can't find a way to download build files from flathub, though...)

distribution

What do you mean by that?

[–] beta_tester@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Snaps only have one central repository which is controlled by canonical. I can set up a flatpak repo myself if I want to.

I haven't validated a package either but I read that you are able to do it.