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[–] bluemoon@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

yeet Proton, those turn over any activist to authorities and soon will sell out more broadly

check out GDPR champions StartMail, same as StartPage, from the netherlands

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Has that ever even happened???

[–] bluemoon@piefed.social 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

uh yeah just look up what Proton has been doing in face of court requests and idk remember when the CEO of Proton sucked up to Donal J. Trump?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/protonmail-under-fire-for-sharing-clactivist-data-with-french-authorities/

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

“Proton must comply with Swiss law,” Protonmail founder and CEO Andy Yen said on Twitter. “As soon as a crime is committed, privacy protections can be suspended and we’re required by Swiss law to answer requests from Swiss authorities.”

It doesn't matter what country the service is from. If they have a court order and there's a warrant for someone's information, they have to provide it. You think they wouldn't do that in Germany? Canada? Finland?

[–] bluemoon@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

when MullvadVPN, sweden, was not only enforced by courts but raided by police to turn over data they replied "what data?" And the raid turned up nothing. Even with physical access to the servers- the authorities with legal right to search left empty-handed. That's planning for privacy, I would assume since Proton doesn't do this for their VPN they only plan for privacy of activists to a certain extent in face of (unfair) court rulings.

https://mullvad.net/en/blog/2023/4/20/mullvad-vpn-was-subject-to-a-search-warrant-customer-data-not-compromised