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You have complete control over your franchise of choice, what are you retconning? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 4 days ago by benagain@lemmy.ml to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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The boss walks in, there's someone on the phone for you:

Phone: "Hi, I'm the leader person behind that book/television/film franchise you complain about online and gee-whiz, you're right! We want you to run things from here on out."
You: "Do I get supreme retcon powers?"
Phone: "Of course! We'll even retroactively edit in your changes!"

Huh, that was easy. What are you changing?

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[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

All of the Kelvin-verse Star Trek movies and all Disney-canon Star Wars content.

.......Except for Andor and Rogue One. That shit is tight.

[–] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 days ago

I agree about the start ears stuff after watching Andor I was like F the Jedi story line, I want more of this!

I don’t mind kelvin since it’s its own universe. Also I think it got lots of people into trek. The 09 movie is what got me started on the series and now I’ve seen it all many times over.

[–] Kwdg@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

But why the kelvin universe, it already is its own canon

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago

Yeah, that's easy to ignore, if you insist. Not even a mention of the whole Picard disaster? Weird.

[–] EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

Because it never should've been made in the first place.

Like the Star Wars sequels, it was just yet another example of

a mainstream, well-known, toe-the-line corporate Hollywood director who
is known for making big bombastic movies that are great eye-candy but shallow stories ("a mile wide but an inch deep"),
who aren't actually fans of the franchise & are thus actually just outsiders to the fandom and thus don't know what makes actual members of the fandom "tick", what makes the content great and all that,
and because they're not huge fans of the franchise, rather than spend the time & energy to consume, understand, and get up to speed with all the years of varied lore (good and bad), they just go the lazy route, say "fuck it let's just do a reboot" so they don't have to do all the work.

It's easy to say that the Kelvinverse is "just an alternative canon", but that's only because it largely flopped. If the Kelvinverse had taken off, or if Paramount had been stubborn and kept with it like Disney has with the Star Wars "Disney canon", it would have undoubtedly been the only officially recognized canon. This is exactly what happened to Star Wars, and as it stands Legends/EU canon have only largely been kept alive by the fans, with very few exceptions (one of them being the Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO).