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[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 97 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Incel behavior includes using "female" as a noun when talking about women. Using "female" as an adjective is perfectly normal and common. It is fine to write "female coworker" instead of "coworker who is a woman."

Some people are hypersensitive to wrongspeak.

[–] Acamon@lemmy.world 49 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I don't think people are bothered by "female coworker", which is perfectly normal. It's the reference to a "female-only" community, when the actual com is called WomensStuff and describes itself as "women only" and "a women's community".

[–] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Not every female is a woman. Some of them are ladies or girls.

[–] Acamon@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I don't know what to else to say, the community describes itself as "women only" and he described it as being "female only". You could (but probably shouldn't) take it up with that community if you really feel their "women only" rule excludes girls. But I'm not sure I see how it excludes "ladies" which are generally considered a subset or synonym of "women".

To continue your point, it's true that not every' female' is a woman, indeed not every female is human. You get female seahorses, penguins and even female plants (dioecious ants like asparagus or holly). But for most English speakers, in most situations, female is an adjective and not a noun. So, you might 'have a female friend' , but you're not usually 'friends with a female'.

In my experience, the only linguistic situations where it is common to use female as a noun are 1) in scientific writing "the male mantis is decapitated by the larger female", and even their is usually just to avoid repeating the name of species. Or, 2) within groups of akward men. I'm not sure if they're trying to sound intelligent by aping scientific terminology, or are so removed from regular contact with women that they see them almost as another species.

Obviously it doesn't mean that everyone who talks about 'females' is an incel, but its use is highly linked to people who spend time in communities that don't involve a lot of women. Just as not everyone who uses "bogan" is Australian, but most of them are. Or, have spent a lot of time in Australian-adjacent situations.

[–] fushuan@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe it's just me, but in female-only community, I'm using female as part of a composed adjective. I'd say male-only community too, it just feels more natural. In fact, in an earlier comment I wrote women only, and then writing man only felt SO bad that I changed both to female and male.

Now that I think about it it's probably because I used man instead of men. I'll change both back but OOP miiight have followed my logic? Idk

[–] Wren@lemmy.today 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

In trans-inclusive spaces we use "woman," in reference to the gender, as opposed to female, which usually designates sex.

Like a nature documentary, for example: "The female meetkat seeks out her pack," as opposed to "The woman meetkat hollers at the girls."

[–] AmidFuror@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago

Ok. I somehow missed that. I scanned for other uses of "female" a few times but was blinded to the one right next to coworker.