this post was submitted on 08 Dec 2025
268 points (92.4% liked)

Antiwork

9594 readers
1 users here now

  1. We're trying to improving working conditions and pay.

  2. We're trying to reduce the numbers of hours a person has to work.

  3. We talk about the end of paid work being mandatory for survival.

Partnerships:

founded 4 years ago
MODERATORS
Yayannick@lemmy.ml
uthredii@lemmy.ml
sexy_peach@feddit.de
yogthos@lemmy.ml
268
Food is literally free (lemmy.ml)
submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Prunebutt@slrpnk.net to c/antiwork@lemmy.ml
82 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

cross-posted from: https://piefed.blahaj.zone/c/onehundredninetysix/p/449273/food-is-literally-rule

Food is literally rule

Edit: Could you please chill it with the taking everything so bloody seriously? It's low-hanging fruit leftist agitprop from c/196. It doesn't aim to be coherent with the very letter of Marx or whatever leftist group/cult-leader you prefer.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 month ago

Maybe, but then if you abolish wage-labour, you just have a different type of work needed to survive

The point is that this kind of work is less alienating.

Either you're going off-grid and living all on your own, which would mean you don't have a lot, but you're truly independent

I'm not arguing for that, since it's not a realistic scenario.

or you're part of a society where you don't get paid a wage, but instead receive certain living conditions similar to everyone else's, and you're expected to work to the best of your ability.

Cool, where do I sign up?

Yes, working for a wage is unnatural. But then being part of a large society with super specialized roles is unnatural. We've been doing unnatural for thousands of years now.

I don't want to succumb to the naturalistic fallacy here. I think it makes people miserable, since it runs counter to our brain structure. I don't think you can say the same thing about large societies (the amount of people you interact with has a natural limit and there's a natural need for humans to be social).