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For Pete's sake, it's not a redirection to say something I've been saying the entire time:
I may as well call you fixating on the promotional pricing nit a redirection from you being unable to admit you were wrong about what the average cost of cellular and Internet in the US is.
If we're being crystal clear, you also called it a promotion, their website called it a promotion and made it explicit that they were discounting the Internet plan and that the introductory rate expired.
Yes, their promotion is to discount their introductory rate by the cost of a phone line when you sign up for a phone line too.
It still has no bearing on what typical Internet prices are, which was what the person was asking in the first place.
It was an edit, so understandable that you missed it, but I did add to my last comment that fwiw I did agree with you that we should also look at averages.
Let's play a game. Can you tell me what their non-promotional rate for internet is? If it's within the $40-$50 range I provided, you'll owe me a dollar?
So here are my thoughts on averages - the article you linked arrived at its number by looking at the average price of plans offered. IMO that doesn't capture "affordability", because it doesn't make sense that adding Kanye Wests new ISP offering a 5gbps gold-plated modem equipment rental tier for $2k/month should impact "affordability". What would really be helpful is the the average, most affordable internet plans offered around the nation. I couldn't find that, though as a close second I did find surveys suggesting that the average American pays $89(again, there's a difference between average plan offered and average amount paid), which blows my mind.
That got me thinking, what does the average American pay for cell phone service? Most reporting I found covers what the average bill is, which ignores number of lines - a crucial statistic. However, this article refers to a JD power report saying the average cell bill is $144. Hard to contextualize this without knowing how many lines that sum represents.
Earlier, you asked if I think the vast majority of Americans are picking more expensive choices for no reason. I actually do - and I have two pieces of evidence that led me to that conclusion.
So yeah, I think people do pay more than they could, for no reason. So while the average costs might be high, that is at least partially due to overconsumption or market inefficiencies, and not necessarily due to lack of affordability. This is why when answering someone asking about affordability, it's good to share cheap, nationwide plans in addition to the average costs for said items.