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[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Empathy gap in action. You just dismissed a SA survivor because they don't agree with you and are male. Think on this for a bit.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The empathy gap was the OP assuming women don't have the same issues, and more

[–] Cruel@programming.dev 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not at all. I just think women have fewer issues, or less severe ones in Western societies. Could be a "grass is greener" situation, but that's just my opinion. I can think of very few reasons to not prefer being a woman.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This reeks of red pill incel rhetoric, honestly.

The president of the United States was involved with sex trafficker. I promise you, sexual assault against women is not being taken seriously either.

[–] Cruel@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

You mean the sex trafficker who went to prison for exactly that?

I wish the guy who assaulted me went to prison for it... or anything, really. Instead, when I reported it, they just took photos of my extensive bruising and lacerations on my neck from strangulation, "lost" the clothes with DNA I gave them, and did nothing to the man. They asked me multiple times if I was gay, as if they didn't believe I wasn't (as if that'd even matter).

I had to file a federal lawsuit myself since no lawyers care, and men don't have the same organizational or social support. I'm alone in this, currently in the federal court of appeals retrying to reverse a summary judgment.

"But women have that problem too!" is literally an "All lives matter" take, is it not?

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I wish the guy who assaulted me went to prison for it… or anything, really.

Just want to let you know I feel for you. Really sorry that happened to you and that this kind of thing does happen. I hope you don't let it continue to reduce your quality of life.

I do feel like a lot of self proclaimed feminists are dismissive of sexual assault against men. I've often seen responses like "but it's men who are usually the perpetrators", which I think really shows they're coming from an us vs them perspective and they don't have much empathy for the male victims, because of their gender.

[–] tehmics@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You mean the sex trafficker who went to prison for exactly that?

No, I mean the president who has been found liable for SA, and countless other accusations and blatantly obvious corruptions around this trafficking ring.

I wish the guy who assaulted me went to prison for it... or anything, really. Instead, when I reported it, they just took photos of my extensive bruising and lacerations on my neck from strangulation, "lost" the clothes with DNA I gave them, and did nothing to the man. They asked me multiple times if I was gay, as if they didn't believe I wasn't (as if that'd even matter).

I agree. It's horrible that this happened to you. This is a huge problem, and it's not exclusive to male victims like you seem to think.

"But women have that problem too!" is literally an "All lives matter" take, is it not?

You're truly a lost cause here. Won't be engaging any further with this disengenous argument.

[–] ShrimpCurler@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 week ago

I'm sure there's way better examples than the president. He's in an entirely unique position and can do things that would land anyone else in prison.

[–] Cruel@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

You're truly a lost cause here. Won't be engaging any further with this disengenous argument.

No, the "all lives matter" comparison seems spot on. No problem is unique to men or women or people of color. Yet some problems are clearly worse for those groups.

You're acting like I'm saying women are universally believed and supported. In reality, it's just much better for them, even if not perfect.

[–] okmko@lemmy.world -2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It's also a small demonstration that that the empathy gap, the one that prefers women to men, comes mostly from men.

Of those I've spoken to, most women take male SA quite seriously. Most women are fine with them making more than the man. Most women agree that young men are being left behind

It's the guys who are the ones with the singular answer: suck it up.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anecdotes aren't data. Show data

[–] okmko@lemmy.world -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Huh? I was literally making a statement that added onto your's.

Edit: wow is this like an astroturfing account? I feel like I've seen many these days on Lemmy...

Nah I just don't like sexist trash

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

So am I, yet you're happy to dismiss me :) I also never went to the police because I knew they would never believe me. Likewise I know many women do not report it for exactly the same reason. I'm not misogynistic enough to think women have the better end of SA.

I don't value the opinion of sexists. Just like I don't value J.K. Rowling's opinion despite her also being a victim of S.A.

Think on this for a bit.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't dismiss you, I pointed out the harm you did to an SA survivor. I never said men had it worse, you did that to try and discredit my point. And you should have empathy for your enemies, it helps you understand them.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The person I replied to said men had it worse. You apparently didn't even know what I talking about when you replied to me if you didn't know that.

And fuck no, do you empathy for Trump?

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As someone who has watched family rot from the inside due to dementia, yeah. It's a horrific fate. Not gonna cry over him but a "that sucks man" is only human.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wish every second of his life is full of suffering before he dies.

[–] ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And that's your prerogative, I hope you let hate control you less, it's something I work on as well

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au -1 points 1 week ago

I'll party when he's dead, it's going to be great. I'd invite you, but I expect you'll too upset and bring the mood down.

[–] Cruel@programming.dev 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Ironic that you would claim I'm saying "all lives matter" in some way.

I pointed out something that is much more a problem for men than women, then you lament about how it's also a problem for women. That is textbook "all lives matter" rhetoric.

Or are you claiming that women DON'T get more support when it comes to SA?