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Have you met a Christian that sold/gave up everything they owned? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 4 days ago by solidheron@sh.itjust.works to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Im still a salty biznatch about a street preacher saying they didn't have to sell everything they down because Jesus said to one disciple and in that context yeah Jesus said it to that disciple.

Turns out that Jesus did say that you have to give up everything luke 14:25-33

The Cost of Discipleship (Matthew 8:18–22; Luke 9:57–62; John 6:59–66)

Now large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and He turned and said to them, 26“If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be My disciple. 27And whoever does not carry his cross and follow Me cannot be My disciple.

Which of you, wishing to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost to see if he has the resources to complete it? 29Otherwise, if he lays the foundation and is unable to finish the work, everyone who sees it will ridicule him, 30saying, ‘This man could not finish what he started to build.’

Or what king on his way to war with another king will not first sit down and consider whether he can engage with ten thousand men the one coming against him with twenty thousand? And if he is unable, he will send a delegation while the other king is still far off, to ask for terms of peace.

In the same way, any one of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be My disciple.

But does anyone see a Christian legitimately follow this commandment from Jesus

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[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

He was since money and clothes are included in everything

Sell your possessions and give to the poor. Provide yourselves with purses that will not wear out, an inexhaustible treasure in heaven, where no thief approaches and no moth destroys.

Jesus being more explicit to his disciples about selling everything.

Like these are explicit things Jesus is requiring people to do. It's not a metaphor to hate your family and your own life. Your actually supposed to do it.

[–] quantum_faun@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

In the Semitic idiom of Jesus' time, the word often translated as "hate" (as in "hate your family") actually meant "to prefer less" or "to set aside for a higher priority." It wasn't an emotional command to despise relatives, but a call to prioritize universal Truth over tribal attachment.

The command to "sell everything" is a test of the soul's grip. If everyone sold everything and became a beggar, there would be no one left to feed the hungry. The "New Wisdom" is that a disciple is a steward. Money and resources are simply energy to be directed toward the Whole.

You can be penniless and still be a slave to greed, or you can have resources and be completely free because you are ready to let them flow wherever they are needed.

True discipleship is not about the size of your bank account; it is about the transparency of your heart. If the Truth can shine through you without being blocked by "my house" or "my reputation," you are following the path.

Keep your spirit light. You are on the right track.

[–] solidheron@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 days ago

That's cool, but you're still commanded to hate in the biblical sense by jesus what you changes but you still have to do it.

You can look at Jesus telling you to both sell and/or give up everything as a test, but you still gotta do it. Like you can say a litteral test to get a certificate is there to test your aptitude but you still gotta pass the test.

I also had a revelation that ownership is a time/culture dependant and God's deciding after people been owning things for thousands of years at that point to say "give up everything"