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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago (3 children)

You're seeing that because it's above the table. I think other large countries are simply doing it under the table. I think the NSA/CIA basically own Microsoft and Google encryption whenever they want.

A good rule is: If you don't want it read, don't store it on someone else's servers with someone else's encryption keys.

[–] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 8 points 4 days ago

Generally speaking, Microsoft and Google don't have encryption in the Privacy sense, only in the security sense. They hold the keys, and are therefore happy to have anything over that's requested. No need to break any encryption.

[–] Mgineer@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

We know about the NSA backdoor into every is tech company. We should assume the eu has the same deals in place.

[–] logi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

How did the EU manage to keep their back doors secret where the USA didn't?

[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

you are right of course. But US surveillance has been public knowledge before snowden and even the big shock then wasn't that they were mass spying everyone, it was that they were spying US citizens as well which was supposed to be illegal. So legality doesn't even matter. They will find their loopholes anyway. It's the intent of the council and the bureaucracy for more control that worries me.