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[–] snaggen@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I must say I am a bit confused. They are open source, and some previous blog post said they are certifying upstream. Yet, they sell quality managed licenses. So, what are these licenses and why are they needed?

[–] snaggen@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Ok, after reading some comments on other places, I think I get it now. While you are free to use their open sourced tool chain, which is what they have certified, you still doesn't fulfilling the legal requirements unless you buy the certified tool chain. Just because it is open source, doesn't legally guarantee that is what's certified.

So, you pay to get the legal status of the certification. Did I understand this somewhat correct?

[–] 5C5C5C@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

When it comes to certifying your own software, the evidence is the key thing needed by the certifying bodies.

If I'm someone who wants to get my Rust software safety certified, it's not enough for me to tell the certifier "I compiled my software with this compiler from a project called Ferocene and they have a blog post saying that they're safety certified. Give me a certification please."

Instead you need to show the certifier all the evidence that went into the safety case that achieved certification for Ferocene and then make a case that the evidence is relevant to your own safety case. This evidence from Ferocene is what you pay them for.

[–] autokludge@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

I'm a layman in this case but sounds about right. Sounds similar to material certificates for steel etc in construction. You could technically have steel for a project that is up to spec but without a material cert it may as well be ballast.