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most seem to recommend graphene, but it's a non-starter for me since i refuse to give google more than i (unwittingly) already have.
What do you mean by give Google more? The only way you give Google more is buying a pixel, but you can buy second hand. I only buy them second hand.
There are now more alternatives from EU companies if second hand still bothers you, but when I started with GrapheneOS, there weren't many other choices.
If you mean give data to Google, graphene definitely doesn't do that
i've been stuck in google's walled garden since the early 2000's because i foolishly bought into their old "don't be evil" motto; so they have all my text messages, phone calls, contacts, emails, location data, pictures, etc. and i don't doubt that they've made a lot of profit from knowing all the details of my life and i don't want to give them any more.
i've also never had good luck buying personal electronics second hand and buying one second hand helps their resale value.
i want to use graphene, but i don't want to use a pixel (nor any new google offering) more.
Okay. Just to note that if you put graphene on a pixel, you aren't giving them more data. Just because it's a Google pixel doesn't mean they'd have you data in GrapheneOS
that makes sense with my data, however i bought the pixel and either helped them make a profit with a new one or helped increase the resale value with a used one.