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Are you basing this on anything? I agree with another poster that proton being the go to alternative is somewhat suspect in my paranoid brain but some of these remark here seem pretty outlandish.
Sure I saw yours and accept that, but “hand your ass over” doesn’t equate to “complies minimally with legal request they have to in order to remain functioning as a business” in my book.
https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/proton-mail-discloses-user-data-leading-to-arrest-in-spain/18191
Before that: https://www.wired.com/story/protonmail-amends-policy-after-giving-up-activists-data/
There are many, many more cases we don't hear about in media.
If you consistently connect to Proton via I2P or tor and don't link a phone number or tracable recovery mail, you're covering up at least some of the juicy metadata.
Thanks for the links, the recovery email aspect was covered in the initial comment old mate was replying to. I was more interested in if the hand your ass over remark had anything to do with the “they cant read your emails”/encryption part. The second link is very interesting though:
Auhorities in other European countries are known to MitM SSL certs at VPS providers for years already. Switzerland is moving their legislation towards the EU direction. Proton themselves have been vocal about their concerns about this.
How long until someone realizes they can demand Proton to inject some extra JS into the webmail for desired targets? Folks in a sensitive situation should follow the established best-practice of not relying on remotely served JS for client-side encryption. To be safe against this vecor, handle your encryption and signing outside of the webmail; either in your own client or copy/pasting.
Fuck that is depressing. I had hoped I’d be able to pay for a service and not worry about this shit to avoid the hassle of self hosting. Very informative thank you.
Google it.
Burden of proof is on you.
No it isn’t.
Just drop it (both of you)...at this point you're just a sea lion and a troll exchanging messages.
My bad, didn't notice the different username
As long and they do it under this chain of messages, they don't sealion/troll anywhere else.
Also, sealioning is “just asking questions” (JAQ’ing off). Consistently interrogating a position or POV for example, with requests for evidence. Not asking someone to provide some sort of evidence for a single claim they made in reply to another user and refusal to find said evidence for them.
Emphasis mine. From wiki. I appreciate the attempt to deescalate though and accept it’s probably time to pack it in with that particular user.
How about you google burden of proof? Like the other user said burden of proof is on the party making the claim. It’s not on other people to prove the claim wrong by doing research for you.
Tell that to science.