This has been discussed before, but with the recent news regarding Belicheck being possibly fired (which blows my mind) and Josh McDaniels getting fired (again), it bears repeating.
Bill Belicheck - he's 87-97 after Tom Brady left.
Charlie Weis - he went 35-27 as the head coach of Notre Dame and 6-22 at Kansas in college after leaving NE. His one year as Florida's offensive coordinator in 2010 his offense was 102nd.
Josh McDaniels - He went 11-17 as head coach of the Broncos, and 20-33 as head coach of the Raiders after he left NE.
Bill O'Brien - He went 15-9 as Penn State's head coach, then 52-48 as Houston Texans' head coach after leaving NE. He did make it the college national championship game with Alabama in 2021 but lost to Georgia.
Romeo Crennel - yes, he's on the defensive side. However, he went 24-40 as Cleveland's head coach after leaving New England, then went 4-15 as Kansas City's head coach and 4-8 as Houston Texans' head coach.
Eric Mangini - yes, another defensive guy. However, he went 23-25 as the Jets' head coach after leaving New England and then 10-22 as the Brown's head coach.
Can we stop with the moron nonsense from people under 30 when it comes to Bellichek? He was winning super bowls as a DC before you were born.
Tom Brady threw 1 TD pass the entire postseason the first time the Patriots won the Super Bowl.
Bellichek is a great coach - he's just old now and needs to retire (although he can still scheme up a defense)
Do you idiots think Bill Walsh wasn't any good because he had Montana?
Maybe Phil Jackson wasn't that great and only won because he had MJ and Kobe and any scrub coach could have threepeated (despite the fact that no other coach has done it post merger)
LMAO
Also is Mack Jones considered a competent QB? I bet if you have BB a Jared Goff or Justin Herbert to work with he'd be way better than he is now.
Also Patriots have never been as good without Dante Scarnecchia.