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[–] tabular@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Given the overly wide scope of web browsers it is impossible for a new competitor to create a new browser correctly or securly. The browser market has one path as far as I can see: Firefox dying and overlord Google being on top until we stop using "the web".

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I hope not. Not only do I not want to see Google annihilate Firefox but I also don't want to see the further "appification" of every website. It's ridiculous that I need to install an app to pay for parking when I'm visiting a city and will only use the app once. It's not even Bluetooth enabled so it's not like it can be used offline if you don't have a connection.

The fact that Firefox is open source gives me some hope that the community could take the reins and continue development if Mozilla did run into financial trouble.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's already some forks of Firefox.

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't they realistically more "patches" than forks? They continue to track the Firefox codebase as it updates.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah you could be right, I'm not sure about the specifics, just that there's other versions of it.

[–] raptir@lemdro.id 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

LibreWolf for example removes the telemetry but is ultimately still updating to each new Firefox version. In the event of Mozilla going under, some project would need to pick up the maintenance of the actual browser core that the "forks" are pulling updates from.

[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

In the event of Mozilla going under

Far less likely than Microsoft "going under" but sure, let's pretend that's a giant concern for the users.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That is horrible but it need not be. Parking paying apps could be federated: you pick the app you like and can pay anywhere*.

Personally I have never used a parking app because they are proprietary and thankfully I live in country where many still uses coins.

[–] ferralcat@monyet.cc 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, you could just use Firefox or safari, or anything not chromium really. Yeah Moz will take money from search revenue, but they've proven over and over google doesn't tell them what to do.

Heck, chrome exists because google tried to firce Moz to ship a shitty bookmarks implementation, and Mozilla said no years ago. It's literally just an example of a "I'm going to take my ball and go home" tantrum.

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I do use Firefox (Librewolf) but Moz are not in control of web "standards" that most websites will follow.

I believe web browsers ultimately should be abandoned and replaced by users with software dedicated to parts of browser functions (e.g. Gemini sites for plain text, video players for video).