this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2023
145 points (97.4% liked)

Technology

60112 readers
2588 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

At the end of the day, its pretty clear to me that Youtube is going to lose the war on adblocking. Either by hook or by crook those that want to use Adblockers are going to keep doing it no matter what.

And to be clear, I am not trying to equate Adblocking to video piracy. To me, the fact that I choose to go to the bathroom during a commercial of a tv show doesn't constitute piracy and Adblocks just automate that process for me on Youtube. I would also never click on an ad purposefully, no matter what it is for.

With all that being said, I am a hopeless cause and I don't think that anything will convince me to buy YouTube premium, but I also used to think that about MP3s.

My real question to anyone reading this is, as the devil's advocate, what could YouTube do with ads or otherwise that would solve the "service problem" of "YouTube piracy"? And furthermore, is there any situaton where you would do anything other than block all Youtube Ads immdediately and with extreme prejudice?

This is an old article but this is Gabe Newell describing video game piracy as a service problem and why he believes that in case anyone is unfamiliar with it.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Historically has never been "easy as fuck". this isn't their first attempt at stopping ad blockers. They can manage to do it temporarily, but ad blockers always figure out a way to get past any blocks put in place. We've seen this play out on the internet many many times in the past. Ad blockers have always won.

[–] Vlyn@lemmy.zip -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Of course it's easy as fuck. YouTube knows when it's serving you an ad. They know the ad is x seconds long minimum. So if they really wanted to they could just stop giving you video data for that time and you have to sit there twiddling your thumbs.

A more elegant solution would be to block the video transmission until the browser returns a secret (which it only gets at the end of the ad break), no way to get around that.

If ads are not served every single time you could still get around it by opening up several connections so you can buffer around the ad breaks.. but that's a hassle and you can't use this with an account (so no age restricted videos). And at some point YouTube might force you to make an account to watch.

If Google wanted to they could do it. Then in the absolute best case you'd have to sit there and watch a black screen for 5 seconds (you still load the ad, you just don't display it).

[–] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

If google wanted to and could do it they would have done it already.