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[–] BaraCoded@literature.cafe -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Well, the hypers have pushed technical distros like CachyOS to casual users, requiring them to go to terminal to install apps instead of pushing people toward user-friendly distros with GUIs that would make their computers and apps even easier to manage than on windows.

That's how we lose: by overestimating the tech-savviness of people and calling them stupid when they don't get it, as if everybody had a degree in computer ~~engineering~~ sciences.

We are the stupid ones. We are toxic.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Unless you have specific wants (which casual users mostly doesn't), you don't need terminal to install most apps on CachyOS.

[–] Nylonbojtel@social.vivaldi.net 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

@BaraCoded @cm0002
I’ve seen it and it’s so weird why would they recommend arch-based distro to beginners. I don’t know much about Cachy itself.
Immutable distros like Bazzite are the way, a beginner should not touch the os beyond installing some flatpaks.
Even Mint or Ubuntu would be better, just because they have large communities and many guides

[–] BaraCoded@literature.cafe 1 points 21 hours ago

I think it's because the linux community hyped it, or they saw it in distrowatch's top 5? Or they have a computer science background and don't have much difficulties with technical stuff?

100% agree new users should go for immutable, hand-holding distros. Bazzite seems perfect for that.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Computer engineering is typically hardware and low level software design which doesn't really fit the analogy you're going for.

[–] AngryMob@lemmy.one 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Case and point right here with that correction.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

LMFAO, I do try to be friendly to noobs...but I am naturally a pedant and so when not dealing with noobs I let the pedant out a bit more. But I do agree with the sentiment that the power users are not welcoming.

[–] BaraCoded@literature.cafe -4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

"ComPUtEr EnGiNeeRiNg Is TyPIcaLLy HardWAre AnD Low LevEL SOFtwAre DesiGN"

Yeah, sure. J'en ai pas grand-chose à faire, puisque l'anglais n'est pas ma langue natale et que je fais de mon mieux avec ce que je sais, mais je désignais ce que tu désignes. Maintenant, démerde-toi avec la traduction.

You've just made my point for me, man/woman.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago

Google figured out the translation for me lol...and yes I know I made your point... although as I said in another comment I do try to be noob friendly...that just only applies to noobs.

[–] TheV2@programming.dev 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From what I've seen, casual users didn't have problems with the casual tasks in the terminal, but with some hot mess behavior of CachyOS, e.g. how the Python update was handled.

[–] BaraCoded@literature.cafe -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Still, the CachyOS hype killed the Linux hype.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No it didn't. Most new Linux users are still going with distros like Mint or Bazzite.

[–] BaraCoded@literature.cafe -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yet, the majority of influencer videos about linux during that period praised only CachyOS, and I bet most of them reverted back to windows when they got enough of their Matrix roleplay with the terminal.

[–] ken@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 day ago

You're in a bubble in a bubble in a bubble. I think.

[–] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

the majority of influencer videos about linux during that period praised only CachyOS

Proof? Because the majority of ones I saw recommended Mint consistently.

and I bet most of them reverted back to windows

So no proof, just personal biases then.

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I've never understood the Cachy hype tbh. Nothing against it, but if you're going for user friendly Arch, Manjaro seems easier and has been around longer. And why hype Arch in general? Arch is Arch, but hyping it for new users is just a mistake. For moderate to experienced users, if you want to use Arch there's a specific reason, you don't need to be convinced. Does everyone just like feeling badass for picking hard mode?

[–] BaraCoded@literature.cafe 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, yes, people love to despise others on artificial pretenses, missing the big picture which is the necessity to liberate as much people as possible from windows.

Manjaro is a good entry point, yes! Bazzite seems very cool as well!

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I do have to say that the Linux community has been improving though.

I tested Bazzite for a while, I liked it. I ultimately settled on Fedora KDE. I could see myself going back to Bazzite if I stop dual booting Windows for gaming and random programs. But...maybe by then I will have upgraded my GPU, and I'll be going AMD if so, and there's therefore less reason to go with Bazzite since I'll have proper AMD drivers no matter what. I could also envision openSUSE Tumbleweed if I wanted to live more dangerously but not go with Arch-based.

[–] BaraCoded@literature.cafe 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oooh I see. I made mine full AMD to go full linux. (And I admit I went for Manjaro 10 years ago and never went back. Also very tempted to go for Bazzite) I hope the nvidia drivers will get better for linux, I've heard they made some great progress lately!

[–] BladeFederation@piefed.social 2 points 21 hours ago

I got Nvidia working but had to sign the drivers to get them to gel with Secure Boot. Hopefully won't have to do that every major update but we'll see.