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[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Age verification if intent was to make it not tied to real ID would be a system where you could go into any store and buy a card you can scratch off for a code to put in.

But, governments want to track and get rid of anonymous accounts. They don't actually care about age requirements. They want a 1984 type control of citizens to know what they are thinking or at the very least scare off people from expressing thoughts like politicians should be held accountable for fear of current or future consequences from a government that may decide it is treasonous.

[–] Fiery@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

The EU actually was working on a system described above based on some sort of zero knowledge proof (so verification via your gov't id, but without the verifying party being able to assert anything other than age > 18 or whatever data you want to verify)

[–] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

So being able to get a token without even the government knowing?

Because if it's the alternative of the government itself issuing the token and it being only the receiving site not knowing, but the government being able to link it back to you I wouldn't be happy with that either.

I'd prefer it to be as trackable as knowing which specific alcohol bottle you bought. So other than showing ID to a store to get a random token nobody in theory would know who the token belongs to including the government.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 11 hours ago

I think that's the idea of zero-knowledge proofs. Nobody ever knows anything about the other party. Monero uses them (among other things) to be truly anonymous.