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Obviously building a big high dimensional language model is hard yes okay.

But once we have one can't we just jiggle weights and run tests? why can't I just download a program to "evolve" my language model?

"Am I just stupid and this is just too trivially easy to be a program?"

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[–] LuluViBritannia@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (5 children)

I have been generating art with AI. There is an extension meant for exactly that : you literally tell the AI "good" or "bad" for each result, and it affects the weights of the model.

Sadly, it's sheer impossible to run. Reinforcement learning isn't just about "picking a random weight and changing them". It's rewriting the entire model to take your feedback into account. And that, while running the model, which in itself already takes most of your compute resource.

You need a shitton of VRAM and a very powerful GPU to run Reinforcement Learning for images. It's even worse for LLMs, which are much more power-hungry.

Who knows, maybe there will be optimizations in the next years, but as of right now, reinforcement learning is just too demanding.

[–] Void_0000@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

How hard can it be?

Seriously though, what makes it require more VRAM than regular inference? You're still loading the same model, aren't you?

[–] LuluViBritannia@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Well, first of all, this is something you do while running the model. Sure, it's the same model, but it's still two different processes to run in parallel.

Then, from what I gather, it's closer to model finetuning than it is to inference. And if you look up the figures, finetune requires a lot more power and VRAM. As I said, it's rewriting the neural network, which is the definition of finetuning.

So in order to get a more specific answer, we should look up why finetuning requires more than inference.

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