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This is how our media covers blatant interference by Israel in Canadian politics

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[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

religious states are bad, more at 11

[–] GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

There's more to it than that. Religion is definitely tied into it, but the basic issue is that Israel is an ethno-supremacist state. You can be an atheist zionist, for instance. You can be an atheist and be fully integrated into Israeli society, provided your ethnic identity is Jewish.

Theodor Herzl, for instance, was an atheist. He didn't believe in God or in Judaism as a religion. He advocated the creation of "Israel" as a secular colonial project, and the religious aspect was from the start just intended to rope-in the stupids.

In fact, the Israelis that take Judaism the most seriously, the ultra-orthodox Haredim, also have the least loyalty and the least commitment to the Israeli state. They aren't really bought in to the Israeli project at all, they don't see it as legitimate - Israel can only be restored when the Messiah comes, colonizing Palestine and creating a "State of Israel" is just trying to force God's hand and is sacrilege. They basically just get supported by the state to study the Torah full-time because Israel sees itself as the Jewish state, and that's their only real connection to the state.