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You know, over the last few years, I've gained a begrudging respect for Apple. They really care about UX, Ui, build quality, OS efficiency, battery life, and they're even the best value proposition at several price tiers. I main Fedora and GrapheneOS at home, yes, but I enjoy macOS and iOS at work. macOS has some of those key professional applications that haven't made it to Linux yet.
Apple is a pretty easy 2nd place in most areas, 1st for laptops specifically. Windows & ChromeOS can fight for 3rd but they're miles below macOS and Linux.
Yet over here as someone who has used macOS professionally for over a decade, I feel like I'm watching the slow deterioration of the operating system as they ignore the wants and wishes of professional users and make the whole thing more and more like a mobile OS with every update.
And at the same time it feels like the number of bugs and broken features which Apple were historically careful to control are getting worse as they prioritise moving fast over being robust.
They are still outperforming Microsoft in every user-centric metric IMO (and by a long way) but the current trajectory absolutely feels like things are getting worse, not better.
100% this.
I used macos for over a decade, and kept getting Kore and more frustrated with the ui and ux decisions apple kept making. Now I use Linux on my computers and am so.much happier. Linux has its problems, but at least I can fix most of those problems. I'm not forced to use anything.
On my phone I use graphene os, and while I hate dome of the ui/ux of the base aosp, at least it's not sucking up all my data.
yep, hardware became better. Software became worse
I am curious to know what features you're referring to. I'm not saying they don't exist, I'm relatively new to the Mac train after all and I tend to not be as plugged into the Apple community because uh...well you know. The only thing I've heard is some people not liking liquid glass for a potential performance hit, but I haven't seen any tbh. They're also dumping Rosetta soon but I think it's been a reasonable enough amount of time.
For me it's mostly small but annoying issues.
Wifi refusing to connect to some access points with no indication of why. Keyboard shortcut to change desktop spaces stops working when USB monitor is connnected. That sort of annoyance that never used to happen.
And then just the general direction of travel. More AI. Getting increasingly difficult to install unverified apps. User consent still seems to be there and things are usually opt in and not out (which is great) but the nudge towards cloud is just that bit stronger all the time, and every update I'm watching for shenanigans.
If you're new to macOS and coming from Windows then everything probably seems pretty awesome in comparison - and it is - but I don't have the same trust as I used to.
WiFi I can't say I have a lot of experience with, just my home and work, and those work. One is 5 GHz, one is 2.4 GHz.
The keyboard shortcut to switch spaces works for me. So does the trackpad 3 finger gesture and magic mouse swipe. I'm on the latest update but it's never not worked. USB-c monitor.
I also hate that direction, but that's just tech right now unfortunately. Apple seems to be resisting most of it. Apple Intelligence is half assed at best, and not forced upon you. I forget it is there. Really just so they can say they did something Ai related for investors without actually wasting too much money.
Linux is better for telemetry obviously, and there should be zero, but again Apple is far ahead of everyone else, and mostly only strengthened their commitments, with some VERY noticeable exceptions like client side scanning in the UK. Even privacy enthusiasts like Michael Bazzel recommend it for privacy and security if you are too tech illiterate or need it for work stuff. After changing settings of course.
Storage options are abysmal but luckily there are encrypted cloud options, you don't have to use Apple's. I'm glad I am not limited to buying Apple's storage, I need it for my data hoard at home. For work though it doesn't impact me, cloud is better in fact.
"Unverified" apps is complete bullshit, you got me there. Everyone else seems to be pushing it too besides Microsoft and Linux. I will be PISSED if they take it away the same way they do on iOS, and I'm hoping the App Store monopoly lawsuits go somewhere.
They moved their desktops to ARM, now they have a single architecture to maintain. It just makes sense to dumb it down so they can ship one OS for everything they make. After all, people will blindly buy it anyway.
It’s all just MacOS anyway so they just stopped shipping the x86 build it’s not really a great loss.
MacBooks are just better. Even before apple silicon they had a distinct fit and finish advantage, but now with the M series chips they are just on a completely different level.
Hardware specs have gone up, prices have come down, competition prices have gone up, competition software has gone way down. The only way I'd recommend a laptop besides a Macbook is if you can find some nice second hand or refurbished laptops, preferably lightly used business class and/or from an auction. And even then, I'd only recommend it if they're wanting to commit tk Linux and need a laptop specifically, or need a Windows only application. Vendors are really out here selling Windows laptops with 8 GB RAM, horrendous build quality, at damn near 1k. My work provided Windows machine is an i7 (2024 I think, maybe 2023) 32 GB RAM and sits at 16 GB RAM with my basic set of Office applications and browser tabs open. My work provided Mac has an M2 and 8 GB RAM, sits at a little under 7 GB RAM, and feels less laggy with the same programs and tabs open.
Desktops are a different story, though in specific use cases, Mac Studio/Mini/iMac are decent options too.
easy to find the bots in this thread.
ever heard of Linux and Framework? arm is great for phones, doesn't belong In a laptop...
M1(and successors) are amazing processors. but, being stuck into a ecosystem for one is not worth it. I for one cannot wait for full size RISCV CPU cores... honestly, the market desperately needs a shakeup from all of this "I didn't have a choice, so I chose the most expensive thing that met my minimum specs" copium.
Lol definitely not a bot. I've always been more of an Apple hater due to the ecosystem and business practices, but they've turned it around a lot in the 2020s. They're still a trillion dollar company and not to be trusted, but yeah, they make great laptops.
I main Linux on my desktop and old laptops, like I mentioned. You can say ARM doesn't belongin laptops but Apple has proven that's not true. They outperform just about any chip, with battery life efficiency that is not even approachable by any other laptop chips. That's just the facts. You can spend 3k for a laptop chip that is as good in performance as an M5 (which costs 1k), or you can get a Snapdragon chip that is almost as good as an M5 for efficiency, for over 1k. But not both. That's where we're at. Intel especially is asleep at the wheel. At least AMD is making good desktop CPUs still.
I'm also excited for RISC V, I'm considering getting one on an SBC to make a CyberDeck out of. It's not come as far as ARM yet but it's promising and we need an open standard.
https://system76.com/desktops/thelio-astra-a1.1-n1/configure
Seems to work fine outside the Apple ecosystem.
Have to agree. I used to write their laptops off as a joke before 2020 due to them having the worst feeling/least reliable keyboard and having overheating issues, however they addressed every issue I had with their laptops when they debuted the M1 models. This seriously made me change my opinion of Apple overall and even the new MacBook Neo is impressive for the price too.
They spy on people, they lie, they're a littéral cult
Source: i worked there
Could you elaborate please? I'm interested to know.
https://www.siliconrepublic.com/business/apple-contractors-cork-let-go-siri
I meant more if you have knowledge about something that wasn't publicly known. This was 7 years ago and got btfo'd, hence the article about the firings you posted. Also everyone I know turns off Siri because it is useless.
They got btfo'd and then 1 months later they hired the same people through some other contractors to do the exact same thing. I knew them well.
That’s known. Siri data is kept for improving the models through human labeling. It’s not like it was hidden, just read the damn privacy policy.
If that’s your magical source as an insider, I’m sorry, but you’re bullshitting. That didn’t prove anything you said too
It’s not spying as it wasn’t their goal. It sure is shit, but you can’t compare that to the stuff Microslop and Google do
That's not the problem. With the false positive they were hearing people during everyday interactions. I remember my colleague bothered by the fact they were hearing people having sex, talking about drugs, all the while with personal information written on screen.
Do you want some guy in Apple headquarter hears some random snippet of your life because you pronounced the word "Shiny" and the model messed up?
I disabled that voice activation feature for this exact reason, but yea, what’s shitty is that people had not been clearly informed at all
and yet it will still listen, just not trigger. check wireguard...
what bothers me more is them constantly scanning files and storing summaries/metadata for "law enforcement".
could they be more like google... they already got the pretending they were doing no evil phase and going back on it done down pat.
Tips Fedora
M'lady
No but for real, that was one of the main reasons it took me so long to test Fedora. I associated fedoras (and Linux in general) with sweaty basement dwellers for many years. Not to mention "red hat" has a different connotation than it did in the 90s. Yeesh. But I'm glad I got over it, Fedora works the best for my needs and Linux isn't nearly as hard as it's made out to be. Might try Cachy at some point though.
People still associate Linux to command line without a GUI and lack of compatibility with hardware. But, honestly, besides some issues with drivers on OpenSUSE 15 years ago, I have not had any issues with Linux ever.
For sure, it isn't even only the corporate or specifically beginner focused distros that are like this these days either. Most distros have gotten with the program of having GUI choices for most things, easy ways to install proprietary drivers if they weren't allowed tk bundle them already, and even their own ecosystem like an app store.
Some FOSS software does not work as a full replacement for missing professional software, but that's about all that comes to mind as far as issues.
honestly, most issues I've seen recently have been relegated to ubuntu-derived distributions like popos!
it's so silly to me how people have this strong misconceptions. I get it for some weird hardware or hardware that EOL that people are clinging on to with windows 11 and grandfathered drivers...
but that's getting rare... I have a mothballed AMD R9 290X piledriver system, still sitting in storage. that can even run modern Linux distributions... meanwhile my 2 year old (except for GPU, which I got this year) system runs just as flawlessly.
I don't get it at all.
Lol, did you miss the ios 26 update?
/me side-eyes macOS Tahoe
Have you ran into issues with Tahoe?
It looks like shit and is demonstrably slower than Sequoia because of all the liquid ass.
Do people really like just having rows and rows of random icons on their home screen?
Huh? You don't have to have icons on your home screen.
You do (did?) on iOS for the longest time.
you either have them on your home screen or in the app page... which is just as bad UI I might add.
if you can't remember what the app is named, you spend 3x as long searching for the app in multiple, poorly named categories...
it's gnome UX all over again...
Glad for you that has changed lately. Apple's is the only (and most expensive) hardware I've ever had severe problems with ... twice. (In between, that clone they killed worked great for 7 years.) Not buying it.
what are you talking about.
Ux/UI has slipped over the last decade.
build quality generation after generation got worse.
os efficiency, my iPad is TERRIBLE...
They actively sabotage old devices to make their performance and battery life /worse/ so it makes new devices feel better...
then you say "best value". that's some major copium. what value is there in a $2000 device with $180 worth of components, a locked down ecosystem that tracks everything you do, scans all your data and sabotages your applications...
I remember first gen iPhones. I had one. I still have lots of classic apple hardware. you are literally sounding like a apple care technician.
They got pretty bad in the mid to late 10s, but build quality is a lot better now. No iPhone bend-gate level stuff in a while.
This did happen. Supposedly they stopped after they got fined. You can say liquid glass is a less blatant version of that hidden as a feature, but as far as I can tell they don't directly do the "slow down" button for new hardware. And if we're going to talk bloat, Microsoft is far worse. Linux is holding out for us.
You can get an M5 Air for under a thousand bucks with an education discount, which isn't verified. I'd go for the 24 GB RAM 512 storagw version which would bring you to 1200. Might be able to snag an M4 for even cheaper if they're trying to dump inventory. The Neo has a better chip than anything close to its price range of $500. You won't be able to find better build quality OR specs for either of those 2 price ranges, let alone both. Believe me, I remember when they were overpriced 2k Intel machines. They're not that anymore, they're the gold standard, and looking even better with how Windows laptop manufacturers have gotten so greedy. You can barely find anything at all decent that's x86 for under 1k. There's a point where it doesn't make sense to go Apple if you need a ton of RAM and local storage, but most people aren't going to get a 128 GB RAM Macbook Pro.
macOS is demonstrably better for privacy than Windows. Better than Linux? Of course not. Sabotaging apps? Huh?
At the end of the day, I try to get whoever I can convince to go to Linux. I try to convince whoever I can to get a desktop instead of a laptop, especially for gaming. But if they NEED a laptop, or if they NEED apps that aren't on Linux, especially creative apps like Adobe and CAD, I'm sure not going to recommend Windows, from any perspective, hardware or software. Microsoft is just awful these days, and has no redeeming qualities left, with Proton being as good as it is for games. So its going to be a Macbook. If they're a student or general user with a budget that doesn't need a lot of performance, get whatever refurbished business laptop you can get a good deal on with 16 GB RAM, 32 if you can swing it, for like 300 bucks, and put Linux on it.