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Fuck it. I'm no longer responding to this thread. If you can't understand that dehumanizing them and attacking their ideals is bad (politically bad) I don't have anything else to say.
We need to reason with them, not fight. Everyone believes what they're doing is good, if you attack that, you're the bad one and they won't listen to you anymore.
You can't reason with someone who wants you dead. Simple as that.
I am not part of the discussion but you answered to a completely civil argument. People not agreeing with you is not a bad thing. If you think you are right, make counter points. Otherwise try to guess why their views differ and over think your own opinion. It is a good thing to get convinced by somebody else's opinion, both win in that case.
Your logic results in deranged people killing and abusing non deranged people "who just want to reason".
You cannot reason with zealots who want you dead. This is a suicidal mindset that you have. Why not just give up and let the bad guys win?
You just think I'm the other guy. I didn't say dehumanize. I said they're not suitable for society and need to be fixed.
They're still human. They're just douchebags. And we don't have to tolerate those.
i just want to comment that what you say is sane from a political point of view. don't listen to the knee-jerk reaction here, it's "monkey sees enemy, monkey clicks button" type of stuff.
just to give some examples, the big historical movements like religion in the medieval ages were successful largely because they managed to unify all people in society somehow. by providing common grounds. and that's the same ideals of humanity, of democracy, that people claim to defend on here.
we can't protect democracy by taking away the humanity, by not considering the other one human anymore. because at that point, democracy is already dead.
You are kind of proving their point here. You are trying to reason with them, but in your mind they are not being reasonable, so you are disengaging because you don't see how further engagement can be useful. Instead, you just call them the bad one.
This is exactly the process you are arguing against. People are not being reasonable, so you can't expect reason to be convincing.