All of that is true, at least for now. But if you look at the work the systemd developers have been doing with remote attestation and end to end verification of computers, it starts to paint a grim picture. Web based integrity might not be that far off. But I really hope it doesn't get that bad

[–] voidsignal@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

The owner of the machine is the one who decide. You can already make the life of other non root users absolutely miserable. The major difference is that it is YOU who control that. Not the company you bought your laptop from.

Also attestation is a super cool feature when you understand it. Because again, it's free.

In general, systemd hate is a mark of ignorance. Which is fine. Ignorance can be fixed.

[–] whimsy@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I quite like the init and journal parts of systemd. I'm not a hater. But I've been around long enough to see where this attestation road might lead to. Google tried it recently with their WEI initiative.

But now the time is ripe again with child safety being mentioned left and right. This is all speculative but combine secure boot ,and kernel level attestation and suddenly one must use verified applications which among other things can't block ads and whatnot