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Every dependency you add is a supply chain attack waiting to happen (benhoyt.com)
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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Soo, how do i build Rust packages without Cargo?

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

You can run rustc directly! You just need to pass about 30 different parameters to it as well as a list of all the dependencies you use and...

Look, it works for small projects.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So i could theoretically script a wrapper?

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 6 points 2 weeks ago

I don't see why not. Cargo is fundamentally just a fancy wrapper around rustc, anyway. Sure, it's a really fancy wrapper that does a lot of stuff but it's entirely possible to just call rustc yourself.

[–] FizzyOrange@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The only reason to do this is if you're directly integrated Rust into an existing build system (e.g. Bazel). It's not going to help with this problem at all.

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

No, it wont. I wasn't suggesting someone should use rustc directly. You're already using Rust, so using cargo isn't adding to the supply chain.

That being said, there was one time I needed to use rustc directly. We had an assignment that needed to be compilable from a single source file. I couldn't bundle a Cargo.toml, so I gave a build script that used rustc directly.

[–] BB_C@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why do you think cargo is a problem?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not cargo per se, but even the tutorial for a cli-tool is like "setup clap, which has 20 dependencies and a kitchen sink". The whole (cargo-centric) ecosystem is much like Node, with the same problems.

And also, cargo.toml has inconsistencies and double-standards.

[–] BB_C@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not cargo per se, but even the tutorial for a cli-tool is like “setup clap, which has 20 dependencies and a kitchen sink”. The whole (cargo-centric) ecosystem is much like Node, with the same problems.

cargo new with-clap
cd with-clap
cargo add clap --no-default-features

% cargo tree
with-clap v0.1.0 (/tmp/with-clap)
└── clap v4.6.0
    └── clap_builder v4.6.0
        ├── anstyle v1.0.14
        └── clap_lex v1.1.0

And also, cargo.toml has inconsistencies and double-standards.

Can you expand on that?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

--no-default-features

That's cheating!

[–] BB_C@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

I will let you expand on this before responding to both:

And also, cargo.toml has inconsistencies and double-standards.