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I've got to make a decision and want to take a room temperature check on what sacrifices people find acceptable for their own comfort. Use any services you know you shouldn't? Any tools that you're just waiting for a chance to replace but can't yet?

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[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)
  • Waze . They know my location when I drive, and there are no alternatives (AFAIK) for traffic jam. I don't use an account though, it's not tied to Google or anything.
  • Kagi because all the others are worse. I may try SearX again to see if it's good now.
  • PayPal sucks but it's good for subscriptions.
  • Tuta and Bitwarden . They have a link to PayPal but the data is E2E encrypted.

Most of the time, I don't mind a compromise as long as I can keep the data to myself and encrypted, or if the smartphone application can run without any permission.

The biggest threats for me in the above list are PayPal (they know what I buy), and Kagi (they know what I'm looking for). I could find a way to remove Kagi though...

[–] tyler@programming.dev 3 points 1 month ago

Kagi has no way of knowing what you’re looking for if you use their privacy tokens.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Wait what's wrong with Waze and Tuta? The PayPal tie?

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

That.... is unexpected. Why would they make a competitor to their own product?

[–] djdarren@piefed.social 12 points 1 month ago

They didn't. As far as I'm aware they bought the competition.

Waze serves a slightly different purpose to Maps, being a friendlier face that's more of a driving GPS than Maps is. And while they don't really market it as a Google product, people will use it thinking it's a good alternative to using Google or Apple.

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Noooooo. Nothing is wrong with Tuta, they are awesome. The compromise is that PayPal knows that I subscribe to Tuta and BitWarden.

As for Waze, it has been bought by Google a long time ago. If you have Android, you can restrict the location to "when the application is running," but it's still Google behind.

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

ohhhhh. I see. I guess that's still better than maps. Do you think it had use of all the same geography as Google maps then?

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

The geographical data was always good, and you can use it without an account. The algorithm itself has improved a lot. It used to be very bad in the past though, it would switch the route every five minute to gain a few seconds towards the destination, but they stopped doing that.

CoMaps looks great, but it's still buggy and I don't know how to have some traffic data.