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Discussion of climate, how it is changing, activism around that, the politics, and the energy systems change we need in order to stabilize things.

As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world. About 1C of total warming. Second chart: about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability. Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases. About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bro your argument is worse than mine. I'm saying things will change in ways we cannot predict, and probably for the better since we are powerful humans with desires. You're saying they haven't changed already, therefore they will not. What the hell is that?

[–] ondoyant@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they're saying that plotting future hopes on a graph is both impossible and undesirable. we can't just assume that things will get better unless there is provable evidence that it will, and we definitely can't just make a dotted line going back to pre-industrial CO2 levels because we think someday we will solve this problem with technology that doesn't currently exist.

[–] scientist@eu.mastodon.green 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@ondoyant @Dogyote

Do you mean that the technology does exist, but, for example, the fossil fuel industries want us to use the technologies that keep them in business?

I've also heard the owners of shops want to sell their products (it's not speculation)

And then there is your average consumer, or at least where l live, who is either not thinking that much about pumping fuel into their 'beloved' CEV or is concerned, but, for example, it's not as if governments & industries are helping.

[–] scientist@eu.mastodon.green 1 points 1 year ago

@ondoyant @Dogyote

Do you mean that the technology does exist, but, for example, the fossil fuel industries want us to use the technologies that keep them in business?

I've also heard that the owners of shops want to sell their products (it's not speculation)

And then there is your average consumer, or at least where l live, who is either not thinking that much about pumping fuel into their 'beloved' CEV or is concerned, but, for example, it's not as if governments & industries are helping