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A video arguing C++ is the worst programming language to ever exist (youtu.be)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de to c/programming@programming.dev

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Found this gem. A single well made video in a channel. The Channel owner probably made this channel just to house one video I guess.

I havent watched it all the way through but it seems to have alot of substance. By the looks of it the guy probably has spent atleast a year developing professionally in C++ and is pretty pissed to make that video as a ventfest

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[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

I also agree that Javascript is worse. C++ has two excuses for being bad:

It has to be compatible with C, a language that's multiple decades older than it, and
It is not garbage collected.

Javascript has neither of those two excuses. People only use it today because of the ubiquity of web programming. In fairness, it did kill off a few other technologies, like Flash and Java applets, but that was more Webkit and Chrome picking it as the winner than anything else.

Maybe these arguments are a bit hand-wavy, but the way I see it, it's like the C of the web programming era.

[–] Custodian6718@programming.dev 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

My Brother Here are 2 for you from a java guy:

JS was hastily put together
it was Never meant to be used for something other than some interactivity in the web Actually Here is a Third one:
it had to be redesigned from a lisp to a java Like Language for Marketing purposes..

It also has a Lot of footguns but isnt nearly as cluttered and complicated and lets you Focus on your task at hand more

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 1 points 17 minutes ago

Sure, I'm familiar with the conditions under which Javascript was created, but those are all political issues, not technical ones.

If you had to go back and recreate another C++, you would be forgiven for creating a bad language, because making a good, usable language without a garbage collector is really hard, and even moreso when it has to be compatible with C. If you had to recreate Javascript... I would think it would be expected that you don't make a language with the same kinds of flaws JS has today. There were plenty of examples of languages Javascript could have been based off of when it was written (like Java).

Case in point: it took decades for Rust to come around which was the first real challenge to C++. In the same period of time, we saw several GC languages appear (Java, C#, Go, PHP, Swift, Ruby, Python, all younger than C++), all competing against each other. Javascript would have been abandoned if it didn't have a monopoly on web programming.

[–] BB_C@programming.dev 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

compatible with C

myth

[–] namingthingsiseasy@programming.dev 2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

It may not be perfectly compatible, but being mostly compatible with C was a large part of its selling point when it was originally announced. Without that, it probably wouldn't have seen as much adoption. However, that choice also led to a lot of difficult design decisions which have become a liability today.

[–] BB_C@programming.dev 2 points 13 hours ago

mostly compatible with C

It's not mostly compatible, not even on the surface level, with any version of C post C89. And most of the ever-growing crap in the language came after the early years anyway, with constructs that are C++-exclusive.