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Electric vehicles pass tipping point in much of Europe: lifetime cost matches petrol cars (www.beuc.eu)

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Electric cars have crossed lifetime cost parity with petrol vehicles across much of Europe. In the used-car market they now have the lowest total cost of ownership.

Newer models even match petrol cars in estimated lifespan, that's something early EVs could not claim.

This study shows that any new electric vehicle sold today will bring financial benefits to its second and third owner. New electric cars registered now will deliver between €262 and €849/year savings for their future second and third owners compared to an equivalent petrol car.

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[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'd never compare a Tesla with anything, it's a piece of shit anyway. I'm pretty sure the $30,000 Camry has a nicer interior than a Model 3 lol. The Rivian's cool, but not even being sold on the continent this article is about (which incidentally is also where I live).

I've only ever done EV to ICE price comparisons in a particular company's range rather than between different manufacturers, and I've never particularly cared about anything in the super low end of the market (I'm sorry, but a Hyundai Kona is not for me, EV or not), nor the super high end (As much as the Mercedes-Benz S-Class is my favourite car in the world (older models, anyway - not a huge fan of the W223), I'll never be buying one new or even lightly used). So it's always been things like the 5 series, X5, E-Class, GLE, etc. Executive cars, essentially.

So 5-6 years ago, there weren't many comparison points. But you could compare the EQC to the GLC and you'd find out that the minimum to shell out for a GLC was about 20k less than the EQC, but of course the EQC's base model had better performance.

Now, Mercedes still makes their EVs more expensive than their ICE vehicles, but there's finally another German manufacturer making decent EVs and that's BMW, who will sell you a base iX for roughly the same price as the base X5 and again, the electric base model has much better performance than the diesel. They will also sell you an i5 for just 7 or 8k more than the base 5 series diesel, and that is actually the same model of car (iX and X5 are same size, but different platform).

You lose comparability again when you go to Audi because those bastards renamed their E-Tron to Q8 E-tron, whereas the E-Tron was actually a much lower-end model. They also haven't made anything worth calling a car in 5-10 years unfortunately, EV or not.

Volvo still makes EVs look unfavourable in their lineup while also phasing out ICE vehicles. The EX90 starts at significantly more than the XC90 and the base EX90 is RWD whereas the base XC90 is AWD. There's also a pretty big gap in favour of ICE in their smaller vehicles (XC40) and of course they've entirely done away with all sedans besides the ES90 and all wagons altogether, which is amazing, because the V90/V90CC was super popular here. 6 decades of great wagons and now they're telling you "SUV or GTFO".