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Should cash stay alive to enable "private" transactions? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by War5oldier@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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For example: in Canada, the bank accounts of those who protested were literally frozen (for simply speaking out or being critical) and talks of potential CBDCs (aka. used to deduct funds from one's account as a fine) whilst considering on abolishing cash altogether.

The alternative (for now at least) may be Crypto (online) until they consider that "illegal" in the future penalizing those who are using it, framing that as money laundering or tax evasion, whilst pushing their propaganda of "tap & go is safe & convenient".

The answers are divided between:

"Cash is King" (it allows anonymous or "private" transactions between you and the merchant)
"Contactless" (convenient, but your purchases & transactions are monitored by the state)

Cash is apparently the last bastion of "anonymous" transactions where it doesn't appear on one's statement and one gets to keep their money without the state deducting it from their account since a nation's central bank has monopoly over CBDCs and one's funds.

That's not even the end of it: them trying to make BTC or equivalent illegal by making CBDCs the default replacing gold overnight, it would mean all those bills you have are worthless. At this point, the only payment method is CBDCs that are linked to one's digital ID.

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[–] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think they will stick with companies like USDC and just keep a leash on them. These stablecoins have freeze functions, the government can take charge of those if they want, and it's potentially a major source of demand for US treasuries in an environment where US debt keeps looking like a worse bet to everyone, since the legislation mandates full reserves and specifies what those reserves can be denominated in.

Not that any of this is especially a good thing imo. The value of crypto is permissionless money, stablecoins are not that and have centralized controls, at least the popular ones the law approves of.

[–] BillMangionee@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago

Practically, I agree with you but the definition of a Central Bank Digital Currency is a currency issued by the country's treasury. Maybe they come up with some hybrid scheme where the Fed will credit Circle's accounts and then they print more USDC, but that would for sure require legislation and be an immense responsibility given to a private company.

DAI/USDS are what you're looking for in a permission-less stablecoin, but unfortunately the founder has back peddled to chase making money over principles. I believe folks have been turning towards a project called https://www.liquity.org/ but its no where the size and pedigree that MakerDAO was.