this post was submitted on 23 Apr 2026
336 points (97.2% liked)

Technology

84041 readers
3597 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

True that. But it was to be expected that my statement pissed of many mac-lovers :-)

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I’m not a Mac lover, it’s just the term; Spyware is data gathering in secret without the user’s knowledge. Apple seems to have it all documented and controllable vs say Windows where you can’t turn off telemetry gathering, just set it to “Basic/required”.

More a semantics thing. I assumed you meant there was something you can’t turn off in Apple shit and it’s done secretly (another commenter has highlighted a daemon that’s doing exactly that!).

I wasn’t part of the downvote brigade either. I don’t get why people downvote stuff that’s more a point of discussion. You didn’t say anything shocking nor blatantly incorrect.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 4 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

On purely semantics, yeah sure. it's no spyware by definition. But neither is windows or android.

BUT everything closed-source, especially the OSs, send data back home. Basically they all do it openly, if you would bother to read the TOS. So unless you tinker, data gets send home. And be it only for updates, or "malware detection" or whatever else. And you have no idea WHAT exactly those data contain. Or where exactly it goes, or what is done with it henceforth.

So yes, someone could choke on the word "spyware", as this is done secretly and in the shadow. Usually. And maybe I came across provocative, but...well. Why not, it's a topic so often just ignored. I don't care for the votes, I just would wish people would say WHY they seemingly disagree instead of just leaving a worthless vote. As you said, more a point of discussion.

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Totally - it got us discussing! And if we didn’t, that daemon wouldn’t have been flagged.

Cheers for the thought provocation.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago

Effluently shining!