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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hot take: Windows handles this stuff so much better.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Apt packages used to get more updates in the past. Especially ubuntu repos. Today everything just seems to rely on Debian. Which is always lacking behind.

I don't like it either. Especially for gaming you really want the latest improvements. Or for science workloads. Or other professionals.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago

Ironically, that stability is probably why AMD target Ubuntu. They don't want everything else on the bleeding edge. Just their bit.

[–] vegetaaaaaaa@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This is fine as long as upstream supports a convenient way to get the latest versions of software for which you actually need latest (APT repositories)

Stable base, only explicitly allow selected unstable/bleeding edge components.

This is what I do for ROCm and a few other things which need to be constantly updated (yt-dlp). Sometimes stable-backports repositories are enough, but not always.

[–] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 6 days ago

yea I also leverage PPAs in some cases for getting the latest binaries, yet relying on apt.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The problem is that there's so many different ways of packaging and also that Windows generally does static linking so old binaries work after a decade. Whereas old Linux binaries are generally dynamically linked and are dependent on some other old library which isn't availible for [current kernel] and you get into dependency hell

[–] chrash0@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

so, it’s the same.

saying “Linux does dynamic linking and Window does static linking” is both false and a mischaracterization. Windows absolutely does dynamic linking with its Dynamically Linked Libraries (.dll). how dependencies are linked is up to the developer and whatever hardware constraints. one reason i like Rust is that it prefers static linking, and a lot of tool chains are moving in that direction. the reason Linux distros push people toward their internal package management tools (eg apt) is to have tighter control over dynamic linking.

and we’re also glossing over scoop and chocolatey and winget and Docker.

but that’s where you get to stuff like flatpack and snap and Nix that try to contain the dynamic dependencies.

i don’t think downloading exes hoping that Windows has stuffed enough DLLs into the OS and just running them is a better solution.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That's true but on Windows it's mostly just clicking install on everything on ninite. Linux libraries sometimes can't even install on a newer kernel.

I can usually get old Windows programs to run on newer Windows versions. On Linux I rarely had that sucess.

[–] chrash0@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Linux libraries sometimes can't even install on a newer kernel.

i’m curious where you run into this. i’ve never had this issue in 10 years of using Linux, most of which being on Arch with the latest kernel

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Trying to do something like run ROS on anything but the Ubuntu distro it was made for.

Flashing an embedded board which requires Ubuntu 20.04 and didn't accept me using 22.04

Some more stuff too but I've forgotten

[–] chrash0@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

oh i see. embedded systems makes sense. i wouldn’t even try to go beyond the factory recommendation for systems like that. maybe for fun. likely there are kernel modifications or modules that are required for those systems.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Idk it's not just on embedded systems. For example you can't run ros 22.04 on Ubuntu24.04 ** https://docs.ros.org/en/humble/Installation/Ubuntu-Install-Debs.html

Windows doesn't have these issues. Not that I use Windows for development stuff, but you can usually install any .exe for Windows10 on Windows 11. Even older stuff frequently still works and only sometimes requires running in compatibility mode.

[–] chrash0@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

ROS is an embedded systems OS, right?

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It runs on embedded systems but also on "normal" computers. It's not an OS but moreso a server/database which communicates messages between different programs.