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Federal Surveillance Tech Becomes Mandatory in New Cars by 2027 (www.yahoo.com)

submitted 2 days ago by ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Except for the thousands of years that humanity was able to exist in low population density towns and villages completely fine without the need for personal vehicles.

Should we go back to the horse and buggy?

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Love the quote, not the context. It’s a legitimate question. We got ride of horses in rural areas due to cars. In North America and Canada in particular the distances are so vast that rural public transportation is not really feasible

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 41 minutes ago) (1 children)

Entirely false claim.

People used horse and buggy to transport goods between towns. Inside of towns themselves, people just fucking walked places mate because we didn't needlessly build them so far apart in order to accommodate vehicular traffic.

We absolutely have the resources required to overcomes these distances and enact functional public transit with a restructuring of our towns and cities.

I'm over this conversation if you're just going to keep repeating that bs.

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 1 points 35 minutes ago (1 children)

People used horse and buggy to transport goods between towns.

This is what I'm talking about. How do we do this without cars? I was discussing this with someone else in this thread so I'll just quote what I said there:

To put things in perspective, Denmark is 42,947km2, and Canada is 9,984,670 km2. That means that you could fit almost 232 and a half Denmarks in Canada. Despite this about half of the population of Canada in the Quebec City-Windsor corridor, which is only 1,150 km-long, and about 90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border. That means that the vast majority of Canada is totally rural, and there are often vast distances between towns and First Nations. It is simply not economically feasible to build rail lines to connect all these places, let along sending out regular train services to these places.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for car free infrastructure within towns, but I just don't see how we can transport goods between rural towns without cars. Willing to have my mind changed tho

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 25 minutes ago (1 children)

Transporting goods via car does not require structuring our entire society around them being the primary method of transportation. You can still transport goods via vehicle while having accessible public transit and cities/towns structured around pedestrians. Rural included.

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 minutes ago

Okay so I guess we're actually in agreement then