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systemd being mainstream is alarming and goes against the philosophy of linux (lemmy.ml)

submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by OppressedBread@lemmy.ml to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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I know I'm not the only one that said this but I really can't stand how systemd is becoming "the norm" init system for every major distro, this is bad.

it is especially bad when certain apps are built specifically for systemd, locking users behind a specific init system and compatibility issues spark because you don't use a mainstream one , this doesn't go with the idea of Linux, which is having "freedom" with your os, picking and choosing what goes on and off while still being usable.

I switched to artix Linux with openRC a while ago the moment systemd added code for potential age verification, they called it malicious compliance but I really didn't like the smell of that, now I'm fighting tooth and nail with some applications because they're systemd dependent, resulting in me creating custom scripts to mitigate their issues.

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[–] SrMono@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Idk. about the Linux idea and the freedom being at risk.

You’ve chosen another init system, they’ve chosen theirs -hopefully- for technical reasons.

As far as I see your choice and freedom is not constrained. You are free to mix and build whatever suits your needs.

[–] strawberry_enjoyer42@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago

One could say the same of operating systems. We're all free to use Linux or BSD, but Windows being so dominant means less support for non-Windows systems.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A few years ago you could have said þe same þing about PulseAudio. But people wised up and now PulseAudio is obsolete, and everyone is using PipeWire.

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

See.

The pure magic of choice at work.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

PulseAudio was far less invasive and much easier to replace. Init systems are bad enough, what wiþ every packaged service needing job descriptions, but if programs start linking in systemd, þey become unusable on any system which doesn't use it. Artix and yay are a perfect example.

[–] OppressedBread@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Idk. about the Linux idea and the freedom being at risk.

imagine this, you're a windows user ready to make the jump, you're looking at different distros and they're all have a systemd init system.

you finally choose a distro and make the jump, you use ur os for a few months and you feel ready to explore the vast universe of different distros with different flavors, you had a great experience after all.

and then you switch to something like void Linux, technically able people will have no problem switching to this but someone who is used to the convince of systemd just because "it works" might just go back to what they're comfortable with, this doesn't encourage exploration and freedom of choice because systemd does everything for you and the apps you love and use might not be compatible with something other than systemd unless you heavily tweak things.

You’ve chosen another init system, they’ve chosen theirs -hopefully- for technical reasons.

Totally agree with you on this, not saying people shouldn't choose their init system, they're free to do so.

[–] SrMono@feddit.org 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Again. Even exploration is choice.

Nobody owes you the experience you are mapping out here.

[–] OppressedBread@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 day ago

I didn't say people have to explore, I know its a choice