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[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Please learn the context of the comic before making embarrassing comments. This isn't about dissuading people from voting or voting third party. Lucy is yanking the ball away every time Charlie tries to kick it. This symbolizes the DNC making promises and breaking them and refusing to do their job even as people vote for them over and over.

People want to vote blue AND have them do their job. That's why all of your centrist candidates on the house and senate are getting primaried.

But I don't expect a member of the genocide wing to understand that.

I lived in the US for the better part of a decade, yet still can't understand why so many Americans still don't understand their own political system, despite being heavily engaged in it on a personal level.

They treat politics like sport and repeat the same tired talking points, like vote blue no matter who. This is literally the behavior that got their Republican party into such a mess - they voted red even if brain dead. Now their own party continually works against their better interests, but they keep voting for them because they can't let the "social communist Democrats turn the US into a homosexual Muslim hellscape" or whatever.

They're not voting for the change they want, but to prevent the other guys from making the changes they don't want. This has been the cycle for decades and things keep getting worse.

Wake up, Americans. The rest of the world sees it. Why can't you?

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

This is literally what makes people not vote. It's telling them the Dems and Republicans are the same. Which isn't true.

[–] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

No, it's telling them that our "labor party" is diametrically opposed to labor. Which is true.

Union membership was over 40% in the 1970s, it's now down to less than 10%.

Our wages and benefits have fallen drastically for most workers in the past 50 years... we are now surpassed by EASTERN EUROPE.

(Poland pays a bit less, but has many more benefits, for just one example. Paid maternity leave, vacation, health care... our "labor party" is an INTERNATIONAL EMBARRASSMENT)

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -3 points 1 day ago

You start off your assumptions on the entire wrong footing.

There is no labor party in the US. There is no Christian or religious party. There isn't any specific party.

It's individuals. There is more variety within the Democratic party to offer solutions than Republicans right now. That's it. That's why I vote Dem.

Once they're able to apply a single word to something and influence how you feel about it. You're fuckin toast.

You and everyone else here seem to be under the assumption Democrat means something. It doesn't. Stop paying attention to parties, pay attention to individuals and weigh your options realistically. People, leftists especially, cry their eyes out when a politician isn't exactly what they want.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Did you not read anything I fucking said? People WANT TO VOTE, but every time they DO, the DNC, which is supposed to be doing their fucking job, REFUSES TO DO IT. That's why they're all getting fucking primaried, which is exactly what you butthurt fucking liberals claim we should do, and yet you're still acting as if we aren't doing anything.

As of RIGHT NOW, the centrist wing of the DNC causes the exact same harm as Republicans, because they are letting them do whatever they want without any actual, meaningful resistance. That makes them just as guilty. The solution isn't to stop voting like you think this fucking comic is saying, it's for the DNC to stop being a bunch of assholes and not doing anything with the votes they obtained through emotional manipulation.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This comic isn't saying anything beyond the DNC tricks voters.

That sentiment makes people not vote. I've seen it happen THREE TIMES now. The fact this meme even exists on this forum a few months before an election let's me know it is absolutely intentional with a goal of harming voter turnout. If you don't see that, you're lying through your teeth.

They're literally all not getting primaried. The issues in the DNC are the old guard who is being replaced and some new comers(Fetterfuck) who are proving to not be what we need. There is a laundry list of fresh new DNC people who are definitely on the ball.

Pointing out anything but the current success of the Democratic party is an attempt to not make people vote and you cannot convince me otherwise because I'VE SEEN IT HAPPEN THREE FUCKING TIMES NOW.

It's the whole blue maga shit, that's not a real thing. There is no blue maga. Calling it that is an attempt to assert equivalency and dissuade voting.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This comic isn’t saying anything beyond the DNC tricks voters.

The comic is right. The DNC does trick voters. They should stop.

That sentiment makes people not vote.

Yeah, it's not the betrayal, it's the people who aren't happy with it.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But why don't you guys understand this is harmful not helpful.

This isn't criticism, there is no healthy take away to consider. It is blanket propaganda with a goal that OP posts on here from reddit using a bot.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

But why don’t you guys understand this is harmful not helpful.

Why don't you understand that the comic isn't the problem instead of the behavior it correctly describes?

This isn’t criticism, there is no healthy take away to consider.

The takeaway that you don't want to listen to is "stop betraying your voters."

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The comic is literally the same propaganda crap I've seen since 2015.

That isn't the takeaway lol. The takeaway to the intended audience is "Dem bad" I literally watched this sink the last election. Are you taking crazy pills??

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Centrists dismiss all criticism as propaganda.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do you differ propaganda and criticism?

I'd say criticism is eye opening, insightful, educates you and even probably presents solutions.

You're right. This post definitely offers solutions 🙄

It's got a silly message a child can interpret and walk away. It encapsulates a complex concept into a simple "Dem bad" motive. And literally read the comments, people are in here talking about not supporting the party. Don't vote for them. They won't help anyway.

OP literally posts this from reddit using a bot. He isn't filtering the media, he doesn't even care he's just sending content here.

On top of that all. This criticism has been said for decades probably even longer. Nothing fresh here. Nothing worthy of thought.

It's fucking propaganda.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You’re right. This post definitely offers solutions

If the party wants credibility, it should start being credible. There's the solution you're refusing to listen to.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Affordable care act, wallstreet reforms, created both the department of education and energy, same sex/interracial marriage protections, multiple attempts at drug repricing/negotiations, multiple climate investments, reproductive rights along with saving the economy twice.

Maybe you should be more educated.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Affordable care act

Was 15 years ago and hasn't been improved since. And started out as a Heritage Foundation policy.

wallstreet reforms

Oh thank god wall street isn't out of control.

created both the department of education and energy,

1979 and 1977 respectively. Come on. Are you gonna give current democrats credit for the New Deal as well?

same sex/interracial marriage protections

Were put in place by the courts and will likely be repealed by same since democrats like Manchin keep voting to approve justices like Kavanaugh and Barrett.

multiple attempts at drug repricing/negotiations

You don't get credit for pretending to try.

multiple climate investments

Biden bragged about record oil production.

reproductive rights

Democrats refused to do away with the filibuster to protect Roe. When it died, they leapt into action within minutes and sent out fundraising texts asking for $15.

saving the economy twice.

the first time, they bailed out banks and there were no consequences for defrauding entire generations. The second time, they told people who couldn't afford food that the economy was doing great because billionaires were doing great.

Maybe you should be more educated.

You should stop conflating contentment with education.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for proving my point about exactly how leftists are never satisfied.

Completely neglected the space in between. The repeals of the Dodd-Frank act. Attacks on Obamacare. Stacking court systems. Election fraud.

Those mean nothing. We won't even discuss how difficult it must be to get an inch especially with such a pathetic pants pissing base such as yourself who only wants to kick sand and cry.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks for proving my point about exactly how leftists are never satisfied.

Satisfaction is stagnation at best.

We won’t even discuss how difficult it must be to get an inch especially with such a pathetic pants pissing base such as yourself who only wants to kick sand and cry.

The contempt for the base is already evident, but it's nice to see it spelled out. If you had less of it, maybe the contempt wouldn't be mutual.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're the same personality who cries about Biden's gas prices but don't have shit to say now.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I didn't cry about Biden's gas prices. I griped that he bragged about record oil production. You know, the opposite of that.

Centrists don't listen because it's beneath them.

[–] SalamenceFury@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you think someone criticizing the genocide wing of the party makes people not vote then the party was too weak to survive anyways. If criticism makes candidates lose, then Trump would have never made it to the White House.

Your anecdote doesn't mean shit, you corporate bootlicking shill.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 day ago

What the fuck are you even talking about? Ramblings of a bonehead

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is what makes people not vote when you force shit neoliberals as the candidate.

If you don't want your voters staying home, better get candidates that support the positions they do. Not genocide and excuses about the PARLIAMENTARIAN

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So instead of showing the success of the DNC (New York City is a great example), Biden's infrastructure push and ending of the war in the middle east.

You're an idiot if you can't smell the propaganda posts like this push. If you think this is just a general criticism someone decided to have you're a bonehead.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So instead of showing the success of the DNC (New York City is a great example)

Centrists taking credit for the accomplishments of a candidate they opposed. Everyone remembers Gillibrand's Islamophobic attacks against Mamdani.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Okay but Mamdani is still a democrat. That's my point, it might sound dumb but people are this stupid. Grandma will see her grandson say Democrats are dumb and every age group in between will be less interested in voting for a democrat ever because they're convinced Republicans are the best option and memes like this literally only reinforce that view.

Criticism is fine. The last two decades Democrats haven't been criticized, they've been villainized.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay but Mamdani is still a democrat.

And centrist democrats continued to attack him even after he won the primary. The same people who screech "vote blue no matter who" showed their true colors the instant they didn't get the sex pest they wanted.

Criticism is fine. The last two decades Democrats haven’t been criticized, they’ve been villainized.

A party that betrays its voters repeatedly over the course of decades is villainous. A party that refuses to stop selling weapons for genocide is villainous. Yes, the other party are also villains. Worse villains. Some people won't vote for villains. Stop being villains and then you can whine about being villainized.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A party that also presents the only progressive candidates.

Some people, entire factions of the Democratic party, aren't villains. You're lumping everything together because you are scared and uninformed. You lack the ability to look at things objectively

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

a party that also presents the only progressive candidates

Plenty of candidates from the Greens and PSL.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Oh you mean interestingly close to Russia Green and PSL party who both support Russian talking points on Russia?

The PSL supported the Crimean annexation by Russia and Jill Stein has only attacked Democrats and also supported Russian actions in Ukraine.

You people are dedicated to going off the cliff.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 2 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Literally strawman and not what I'm saying. You must've taken a short bus to school.

The ironic part is you're actually doing this, you literally can't have reasonable discussions because "Dem bad".

Bonehead.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 2 points 17 hours ago

You don't know what the word literally means.

And yes, your answer is BlueMaga Russiagate conspiracy theories. You seem to think slander and innuendo is "reasonable discussions"

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A party that also presents the only progressive candidates.

A party that opposes progressive candidates harder than it opposes republicans.

Some people, entire factions of the Democratic party, aren’t villains.

Yes, but the DNC, as Lucy in the comic is labeled, are. The DNC keeps interfering in primaries. The DNC keeps expecting us to accept "lesser evil" candidates that get more evil each time.

You don't want to hear anything that might prompt the electorate to vote for better candidates.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Why wouldn't I wanna hear that? What's my motive here?

The DNC to be frank is fucking clueless. It only wants money, it chose Hillary and Kamala because of financial incentive. But also within the party are the only individuals willing and openly stating how election funding needs to change.

Obama tries to get healthcare. Biden tries to get infrastructure. Both revive a struggling economy. Both had an America only mentality and as much as people wanna try to sell you that they were warmongers or imperialists, as presidents they were very domestic focused. Most international policy and issue came to their feet or existed before them.

Most women, people of color and half decent politicians are Democrats.

But this mentality that Dem bad, is what loses elections every time because nobody will discuss success within the party. They focus on the bad. So the establishment which chases money and decides the DNC's move relies on data that shows a wishy washy base that will turn at the drop of the hat and is endlessly unsatisfied inside a broken system, and so they head to corporate interests.

It's a carrot on the stick game. But instead of being a mother fucker and snatching that carrot out of the air, which people can do historically, leftists and liberals and Dem voters piss their fuckin pants and kick sand and cry and don't vote next election, or consider a candidate unworthy for not being perfect or fitting the mould.

Meanwhile Republicans get a consistent vote and corporate support. Few fractions in party goals. Trucking forward continuously. Because their voters are easier to satisfy and they don't really have to rely on the majority to vote, they actually just need them to note vote. So what do they do? "Dem bad" every election. And you help that by not having the confidence to express a neutral opinion and see both good and bad and the cause and effect.

[–] mattyroses@lemmy.today 2 points 19 hours ago

The stick is not voting for them. Do you not understand that?

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why wouldn’t I wanna hear that? What’s my motive here?

You like the party as it is and don't want it to improve.

It’s a carrot on the stick game. But instead of being a mother fucker and snatching that carrot out of the air, which people can do historically, leftists and liberals and Dem voters piss their fuckin pants and kick sand and cry and don’t vote next election

Progressives overwhelmingly vote blue no matter who. You just don't ever want the party to stop moving to the right, so you lie about them.

or consider a candidate unworthy for not being perfect or fitting the mould.

We're tired of betrayal. You never will be.

[–] deft@lemmy.wtf -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're literally insane throwing such accusations lmfao.

Pointless talking to someone so hostile who cannot even meet a middle ground and admit something about the party is positive. Weak minded and easily falling for Facebook tier propaganda.

"I depicted myself as the chad and therefore you have lost" ass nerd.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Pointless talking to someone so hostile who cannot even meet a middle ground and admit something about the party is positive.

Pointless talking to someone who thinks that those who the party has betrayed don't have legitimate grievances. Keep shrieking "propaganda" at anyone who says that your party's actions are unacceptable.

The party will not improve if the voters are content with it as is. You want to enforce contentment.

[–] Gathorall@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Are we the keepers of American idiots?