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[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 1 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

I dunno, they're here to stay. Cat's out of the box. Educators and education need to adapt. In person assessment is probably the ideal way to gauge progress and learning, but due to resources I don't see it being practical.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

they're here to stay. Cat's out of the box.

People keep saying this as though it’s true. The odds that this current era of free and ubiquitous access to these frontier LLMs lasts forever are pretty slim.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 2 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

How do you figure? There are open source self host able solutions right now.

[–] nickiwest@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Already, very few middle schoolers have the tech savvy to self-host anything. If it's not a tablet, they have trouble using it.

Add to that the possibility that the data center run on memory and processors could mean that local computing power will disappear, to be replaced with devices like Chromebooks that use corporate cloud services for everything.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

You can’t run anything like a frontier model on a self hosted solution. To get anywhere close you’d have to spend thousands of dollars on hardware which obviously isn’t free, or even a viable solution for the vast majority of people, let alone these students. And the quality of output you’d get from a model running on off the shelf consumer hardware like a MacBook is much more noticeably AI generated and trivial for AI detection tools to flag.

[–] Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Cat's out of the box.

The monkey's out of the bottle.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago

Deserved. 🤣

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Except the whole point of education is to LEARN how to do it without these tools. If you're just turning your brain off and handing in the output, you are literally missing the point.

It's like using calculators on steroids. There are times to use calculators and times to force mental math. You can teach kids AI literacy and usage habits, but letting them just use no thinking makes the entire exercise pointless. We might as well close schools, because having the AI generated your math homework or essay is fucking pointless.

[–] ieGod@lemmy.zip 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

You wildly misunderstood my post. Firstly, I'm not suggesting students turn their brains off. Secondly, how you learn isn't relevant to the demonstration and application of that knowledge, which is precisely why I said in person assessment is the optimal way. You ask the student and watch them, live. This is how you defend a thesis, in front of a live panel. No tools, no cheating, just your knowledge.

What I am suggesting is that the system should adapt to the reality of the technology.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 0 points 12 hours ago

My point exactly. Same thing with just looking up the answer on Google or whatever