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I got recommended a YouTube video that Discord published that only further deterred me from using it.

I would get a VPS but it is expensive, and I am lazy. Would you recommend any public servers?

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[–] turdas@suppo.fi 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why XMPP instead of... pretty much anything else? Mostly asking because if you're considering it as an alternative to Discord, I'm not sure you know what you're getting into.

[–] zemon@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What's wrong with XMPP? Genuinely asking.

[–] turdas@suppo.fi -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Nothing as such, it just doesn't really do what Discord does beyond the basic chat experience. Stuff like voice calls, screensharing etc. aren't really there.

It also kinda lacks userbase, seeing that a lot of the open source federation enthusiast crowd has moved to Matrix.

[–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

a few of these things are supported in XMPP, it's just a matter of having the right client and server setup

[–] zo0@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

First time I'm hearing about this, could you elaborate?

[–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago

check out the software section here: https://xmpp.org/software/?category=integrated-platforms

there are ways to make voicecalls and videocalls work but it's not at easy to setup as discord or using a public matrix instance

[–] turdas@suppo.fi 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah I know there's ways to get voice calls and stuff, but the issue is that it's not standardized in any way. As you said, you and everyone involved needs just the right client with just the right home server.

Matrix on the other hand finally managed to more or less solve this with Element Call. That's not to say Matrix doesn't have its own issues, it's still not a complete Discord replacement either, but it is closer than XMPP and more likely to get there eventually.

[–] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

that's fair, but setting up a matrix server is a PITA where you also have several server/client setup that may or may not use a COTURN + MatrixRTC (you also need to setup COTURN in XMPP)