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[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 16 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Eventually. Maybe sooner than we think.

Phoenix has been insisting there's 100+ years of water under the mountains, etc. for decades. But every time there's been any sort of effort to verify, it gets killed either by the government or courts on various ways.

Phoenix also loves to concrete over absolutely every open area, removing natural heat sinks into the ground. It's one of the big reasons the Phoenix area is as hot as it is and maintains that heat overnight instead of actually cooling a bit like other cities in the Sonoran Desert region.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Nothing better than a concrete/asphalt desert in the middle of the summer with zero shade.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I really don't get that. Every desert I've lived in, as soon as the sun went down the temperature dropped like ten, maybe twenty frankfurters. Phoenix just stays hot and that definitely seems engineered

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 5 points 6 hours ago

Yeah that's what deserts do.

But Phoenix isn't a desert anymore, it's a big concrete pad that works just like any rock you put into a hot space... it absorbs heat through the day then radiates it back out once the sun is down. They replaced the desert but didn't leave holes for it to still work the same.

[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Tucson here: I thought I’d like to move to Phoenix for the big city convinces. After staying overnight at a friend’s house, I can solidly say that the difference in the summer is insane. It’s a whole new level of heat. It’s doable, but shit, it’s not a joke if you’re unprepared.

The heat island effect is not an exaggeration. The lows in Phoenix in the summer are higher than the highs in even warm climate cities.

[–] halcyoncmdr@piefed.social 5 points 8 hours ago

Yeah Tucson has a lot of blank spaces spread throughout the city when you actually get down to the street level. Lots of open areas for the heat to be absorbed by the earth rather than just getting trapped in concrete and asphalt everywhere.