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JFC were losing the internet everywhere.... we're just slaves to nation-states and corporations...
Turns out voting for conservatives has consequences.
Canada isn't led by conservatives, though, it isn't just conservatives.
Joke's on you, in the UK we have a "left wing" government and they're doing the best they can to fight against privacy!
Oh wait.. I guess the joke's on us nvm.
As much as this chart is misused, it shows that left and right can be both authoritarian - thus pushing anti-privacy nightmare like this.
There is a war going on against online freedom, and we are losing.
Yeah... I pay attention to UK politics mostly to avoid hyper focusing on depressing domestic politics, and it's devastating to see Labor shit the bed the way they have.
Like, you guys are supposed to be better than us (it's a low bar)! But they squandered their mandate in the most perverse and infuriating way. I'm sorry. Shit sucks.
Anyway, that's my half-assed perspective from listening to Pod Save the UK, the Bugle, and reading the occasional article.
the UK has it rough. They have a dogshit conservative government for a decade and then get pissed when the left cant clean it up in a single term. Also most of the voters are still falling for conservative outrage bait drumming up a ton of distraction issues like migrant crime and rape gangs.
Labour isn't the left. Keir Starmer lied about everything to become the leader of the Labour Party as the face of Morgan McSweeney, Steve Reed and Peter Mandelson's "Labour Together" right wing project because they knew the membership, which is generally centre left, would never vote for them if they were honest about their intentions. They hid 75% of their donations until after the contest was over, violating electoral law.
Lo and behold, they're doing disability cuts, trans moral panic, privacy violations, outsourcing to American tech barons and clamping down on protest rights. Starmer suspended several MPs early on for voting against the government's policy of keeping the two child cap on benefits.
However, you are partially right that the right wing press still doesn't approve of them and are manufacturing dissent, despite Labour's cruel anti-migrant and pro-capital policies.
From what I've seen the good far outweighs the bad and it is what I would consider left wing. When you look at the reasons why he did the things you're attacking its not like its his ideal policy, he had his reasons and seems that if the circumstances were different he would be more free to pursue a further left wing stance. Government isnt always getting what you want, you must balance the budget and fight to spend your political captial most efficiently getting wins where they matter most. I dont think hes done a great job but its not half as bad as people claim.
To be fair, the issue (or at least my point) here is not that they didn't magically fix everything. It's that they actively introduced things (like the online safety act) and are continuing to pursue things (like extending it to vpns) which didn't exist before and are hostile towards online privacy.
I do agree about the general mentality being outrage based which benefits the right.
It's actually quite interesting to look at the party manifestos in England Vs Scotland for the same parties. Reform UK has seen some success in the recent Scottish election and I believe part of it is that their "Scottish" manifesto reads closer to a regular conservative party (so only medium insane), whereas it's batshit insane in England. I don't think a lot of people compare those, despite it being the same party.
Yes I understand being pissed off at some horrible legislation but focusing on single events and painting an entire picture will destroy any politician. Focusing on his worst legislation ignores all the good stuff he has passed and makes people think the left is just as bad when objectively that is not the case.
Like even looking at the online safety act. Thats popular legislation with majority support. Think of all the things that wouldnt have happened under a conservative government, rail nationalization, strengthen labour laws, green energy expansion and reform, prison reform.
All his biggest controversy kind of pales in comparison to the good done. So to throw all that out just seems very stupid to me.
I see your point and also agree with you, but at the same time it seems like you're implying it's a binary choice. Either we support labour or we support the right. The way I see it, they're a centrist party now at best. I want to support a more leftist/libertarian party. I don't have to run to vote for reform just because labour didn't do as well as I hoped, but I also don't need to vote for labour if they do things I hate (which the war on privacy is).
And of course the online safety act passed with a majority. They're using the easiest manipulation tactic to describe all of these type of bills that exists. "It's for the children". It takes a lot to oppose it while making sure you don't give ammunition to be smeared with "oh they hate kids/don't care about children's wellbeing" while defending it is as simple as repeating it's to protect kids. Doesn't even matter what the bill does as long as it can loosely be related it's a guaranteed "moral high ground".
Lastly, I don't think it's good to excuse bad policies by saying they also did other good things.
Starmer has betrayed every principle Labour had and is a traitor to every existing socialist. This has - for once, and that makes it even sadder - nothing to do with the Tories.
I'm sure liberals would pass on the opportunity to have more power and control and would totally thrash the whole thing.
/s, but should be obvious
Liberals have a much better track record with this sort of thing.
are you aware of which party has a majority in canada’s parliament right now
The party that all the Conservative MPs are joining, because it aligns with their conservative policies more than the extremists party they are currently in.
I don't understand your comment, I thought liberals had a majority government...?
They did, this guy is just being edgy and predictable.
Blame all problems on conservatives, even when they're not in power. Libdippers can do no wrong. /s
Mark Carney is 3 Conservatives in a trench coat.
Now, he is an actual Conservative, which is a hell of a lot better than a reactionary extremist that are calling themselves Conservative these days, but there's a reason Conservative MPs have crossed the floor to join his party.
That's just as absurd as saying Pierre Pollievre is 3 Liberals in a trench coat
Not in the slightest, no. PP doesn't have any liberal policies (he doesn't have any policies), Mark Carney is all conservatives policies from 20 years ago before they leaders decided to go off the deep end. Mark Carney worked for the Harper government.
Again, why do you think so many Conservative MPs have crossed the floor to join the New Conservative party?
I mean, the Libs are doing everything I'd expect from Stephen Harper's Bank of Canada guy and the Tory's Bank of England guy.
Not being able to tell if the Libs or Cons are in charge just feels like more evidence of how far we've ratcheted to the right.
Check out the Tenfingers protocol a takedownsafe, encrypted sharing protocol, have your own free website with any kind of information (for example)!
No government censorship.
But people are so busy that nobody is actually using it 😔.
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