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[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 25 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

All numbers in AI are made up it's wild to see tankies glaze DeepSeek's fake numbers while being skeptical of Western corporations' numbers

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

All I see is good and cheap model. It doesn't even have to be perfect, just in ballpark of mainstream models.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Them cutting consumer prices doesn't show that though.

It's wild that people normally critical of AI boosting will drink Koolaid if it's China flavored

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Most people don't care about Tiananmen square and politics. And cheap =/= bad. It's a fallacy

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

WTH are you on about?

Does being a tankie cause brain damage?

[–] Sektor@lemmy.world 0 points 2 hours ago

If someone beats up your bully you have sympathy for them, regardless of the reasons why they beat them.

[–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 23 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Not glazing when its simply enjoying watching China beat the US at its own game

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

But the numbers are fake, so it really doesn't mean much to reduce a fake number by 75%, it isn't an indicator that DeepSeek is beating anyone at anything.

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 31 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Cost to end consumer is not a fake number.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What does that number meaningful represent as DeepSeek doing well?

They can afford to lose more money on this? They have lower operating costs? They have a better way to make money of their users?

It could indicate any/all/none of theses

[–] clifmo@programming.dev 6 points 10 hours ago

What does that number meaningful represent as DeepSeek doing well? I don't understand the question

They can afford to lose more money on this? Yes They have lower operating costs? Yes They have a better way to make money of their users? They are not as profit motivated as their competition

I don't think you understand Deepseek's role in the market. It's to intentionally undercut US providers.

[–] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

What do you mean by the numbers are fake? Are you saying the worth is over inflated? If that's the case, of course it is, none too different than virtually any other commodity.

[–] RIotingPacifist@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

What does that number meaningful represent as DeepSeek doing well?

They can afford to lose more money on this? They have lower operating costs? They have a better way to make money of their users?

It could indicate any/all/none of theses