this post was submitted on 31 May 2026
800 points (97.8% liked)

Funny

15141 readers
1105 users here now

General rules:

Exceptions may be made at the discretion of the mods.

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
 
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] decended_being@midwest.social 10 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Animal exploitation is not necessary though, and with only growing the plants for Humans, instead of also growing for non-human animals bred into existence to be killed, farms would use significantly less water.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also, maybe we don't need to grow almonds in the middle of a desert.

[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

On the other hand, not being a farmer admittedly, I'd assume there's some reason the almonds are grown there of all places rather than somewhere with cheaper water, is the climate good for them there or something, water consumption aside?

[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The climate is great. Historically they have been grown in similar areas. And don't forget the cheap migrant labor.

[–] VicksVaporBBQrub@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

California generational farming. It's wising up, but ever so slowly. Blue Diamond Almond company, I'd say, is about half its presence now since 2000. Before 2000 the irrigation canals was practically free-flowing year-round. It's a cash crop -- so if it can grow, you know. But yeah, it is still over-the-top for a naturally arid area.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Are you suggesting we don't feed livestock? Real humane letting the cows starve to death....

Seriously I don't understand what you're even getting at here.

[–] Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago

Way more humane to let them live in squalor until the day some 14 year old slave labourer cuts their throats amiright?

[–] discocactus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Eat them, and then don't grow more.

[–] decended_being@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

(Assuming you're asking with best intent)

I'm suggesting we stop breeding "livestock" (sentient animals) into existence for a life of torture to then be killed and eaten by humans.

80% of agricultural land is used for animal agriculture. Rewilding most of that land, making some of it habitable, and the remaining converted to plant agriculture would be a far more eco-friendly solution.

What I think you're getting at with

If we stop caring for the cows, they'll die.

(paraphrased)

Which I agree is unethical; however, real world solutions don't happen immediately like that. A slow movement builds, and as demand for meat, dairy, eggs, etc. reduces, the supply will reduce over time until only a small portion of farmed animals remain. They should be cared for in a similar way that elephants on Sanctuaries or rescues are cared for.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The demand for animal byproducts is not going to reduce, Veganism is simply not as viable or desirable as you think it is.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 1 points 1 hour ago

Not to mention it's a bit of fantasy to think you can just magic pastoral land into arable land, we don't gain more cropland by giving up on animals.