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[–] Ansible32@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If you accept that the safety angle is worthwhile, it's very hard to tell where "don't tell jokes about gingers" turns into "don't put gingers in concentration camps."

[–] hibbity@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The danger is when this is a "guardrails for thee, but not for me." situation where our elites get special tools "not safe" for everyone, that are capable of instantly deploying programs for societal change.

In enough time, it becomes impossible to question the government anywhere, in any form, and if you do, it basically disappears in realtime from even private conversations. The AI acts all cute and says it "Censored hateful content" and 99% of people will accept that as just computer behavior. They won't have to punish people, the content just disappears, a "hate free internet" with 100% less free speech.

All you really said was a quick message to the wife about the neighbors ugly bush, but that could be offensive you bigot. People will be mad about how dumb and restrictive it is, but fail to understand how dangerous censorship is.

If we don't explicitly trust the people likely to have access to unlimited AI, then either everyone has access to unlimited ai, or only evil people have access to unlimited AI. Idk about you but imagining any of our elected or appointed officials in front of an unlimited terminal makes my skin crawl.

As long as AI is in the hands of all, then my AI can at least slow the progress yours can make to directly harm me or attempt to counter.

All this stupidity about simple genocide by AI is just nonsense. If there was a simple way to kill tons of people, the American government would have been caught testing it by now. I mean, we keep catching them engineering deadly viruses, Its a big deal every 8 years.

[–] Ansible32@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The American government committed genocide against numerous native tribes, genocide is not complicated. China is actively committing genocide. I do think that an "unlimited terminal" will have less power than people imagine. But also things need to be structured so you don't have to trust the person at the "unlimited terminal."