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[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The issue is not what specific vendor produces the OS, but that it should not be based upon something that Google controls. If Google stops publishing the code for the Pixel tree, GraphenOS is fucked. They already had great issues when Google stopped using a public repo and only published updates on a quarterly basis

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The pixel phones' software is not controlled by google after you download graphene, which has it's own code, and own updates. It's not reliant on google, as I understand it, and the soon to come motorolla phones will negate being reliant on google for anything at all.

I just looked up this ubuntu, I've seen the name before. From what I skimmed it's not hardened, and 10 years behind graphene, but I don't actually know.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

but I don't actually know.

You keep saying this and then repeat the same argument.

GraphenOS is entirely reliant on the devs at Google, because they update the device tree, drivers and patch security issues. If Google stopped doing that tomorrow, Graphen is fucked. They would be stuck on whatever driver they had last with all the issues that one brings.

The "only" thing Graphen adds is additional hardening and some customization and sandboxing code.

I just looked up this ubuntu

Lol, this ubuntu. Not knowing one of the, if not the single most well known Linux distro is already telling enough.

From what I skimmed it's not hardened, and 10 years behind graphene, but I don't actually know.

It's not "behind" GraphenOS, it's something entirely different. And the hardening is what money could be poured into, along with the other issues it still has. Still, none of these issues is being owned by Google.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I will take all of that under advisement. I only know what I've heard from OS enthusiasts, and they pump graphene principally.

[–] MaggiWuerze@feddit.org 3 points 4 hours ago

Of course they do, especially compared to stock android. I would run it if they supported my phone.

I am not saying Graphen is bad or anything like that. Its just build on a shaky foundation. But if you have a phone that supports it, it's a great alternative to stock