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[–] greevous00@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Ilya Sutskeya is what happens when a smart person makes it to adulthood without developing any EQ.

Now there are reports on LinkedIn that the board is in negotiations to bring Altman and Brockman back (probably serious pressure from Microsoft I would guess.... like "not only are we not going to partner with you, we're going to exercise this clause in our contract that removes your access to all of our compute, effective immediately. Try developing GPT-5 on whatever you can scramble together from memory, morons... nobody in their right mind would give you the kind of sweetheart deal we gave you after this stupid stunt. Friggin' amateurs.")

[–] katbyte@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Try developing GPT-5 on whatever you can scramble together from memory, morons

wait what? this makes no sense

[–] codelapiz@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Openai dosent need microsoft. The second ms dose such a thing, they got billions of dollars of equipment idling, every customer loses faith in them, and google or amazon sells them compute instead.

[–] greevous00@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They're in partnership with each other. It's not a one sided partnership. The VCs didn't have to expend capital to get compute, under your scenario they would.

With regard to equipment idling, yeah, MS probably wouldn't love that, but it basically puts them in the same place as Amazon right now.

Google would never go into partnership with them, because OpenAI was founded specifically to compete with Google.

Amazon might, but given such random behavior from the board, Amazon would extract some kind of board level control before they'd expose themselves like Microsoft did.

[–] codelapiz@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

you act like everyone; apple, amazon, google, facebook, elon musks companies is not spending billions on trying to get what openAI has. If microsoft bitch their way out of the partnership by pushing to hard for sam altman(if they want him so badly, its because hes in their pocket), the others will relize they can take microsofts place, and all they have to do is recive the usage of the by far best AI in the marked, and not try to take over the company. Especially google wants this. if anything just to prevent microsoft from improving bing. but also while gpt4 is the best attempt MS has had and will have at taking over search, gpt4 or whats next could be googles best attempt to take over with their google docs ecosystem. its allready nowhere near as far behind ms-office as bing is google search.

that would be worth 100s of billions to google medium-long term. Facebook could abuse our data even more, and maby make augmented reality acutally usefull if they had a partnership with openAI. Amazon may have less internal uses that i can think of, but they would love to host the API and get a small cut, that becomes a lot of money when its spread over so much use. atleast amazon would be willing to SELL compute the openAI, anyone would. And lastly apple is realy looking to run local AI on their devices. Im sure they would pay billions and billions to openai, in exchange for a (gpt.35 turbo)turbo. Supposedly gpt 3.5 turbo is not that large, so if they downscale it a bit more, they may be able to get it running on apple hardware, and if they downscale it enougth, it wont be usefull for people to reverse for server use. And im sure if anyone could run a local model that was hard to reverse, it would be apple.

Yeah sure, individualy these companies are a lot larger than OpenAi, and completely overpower them. But they are all competing for the same very valuable thing that openAi has acces to. They can bluff and say they dont want it, but openAi dosent even need to take any risk when calling the bluff. they may just pick anyone else.

[–] PSMF_Canuck@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Bringing back…? That can’t realistically happen without a board reboot. Maybe not at exactly the same time but…you can’t have the ex back without restructuring the board, that will never work.